I'm Catholic, and it bothers me when people do that.... if you're going to spread the word, there's a much better way to do it than that.... ugh. Then when people do this it gives everyone this negative image of Christianity which isn't true in the majority. Besides... why center in on the fear of Hell when you can talk of the benefits of Heaven? You'll get more people who want to work for you if you tell them of your awesome benefits... not of how bad things could be if they don't work for you... keeping with that metaphor, it won't motivate your employees as much by reminding them how easily they can be fired as opposed to the good hard work will do.
Also, keep in mind that the "employee-employer" metaphor is just an example to sort of get my point across. I don't mean in any way to imply that that's exactly how Christianity, etc. works.
These are probably the same guys who follow The Laramie Project tour and protest at all of the play's performances. Iowa City had a bunch of these people show up from some radical Christian group in Kansas when the production came to Riverside Theater.
Had I seen that, it sure as hell wouldn't have been peaceful.
One screamed at a mother with a small child that she was going to hell for being a single mother (just because a husband/mate wasn't with her doesn't mean there isn't one). Not very peaceful.
Passing: 124/273, 1560 yds, 8 TDs
Rushing: 441 yds, 3 TDs
Receiving: 98 Rec, 1106 yds, 3 TDs
Yep, that was Westboro. I was there in the crowd that day. A couple of my friends were making a documentary about the Westboro group (against it, not supporting them...) and having them come to Iowa City was a prime opportunity to get some film, so I went out and conducted interviews with them. Despicable people, really. The documentary turned out jaw-droppingly well (and went on to win a few different amateur film festivals around the country), but just standing on the sidewalk being lectured by those weirdos in my own hometown made me dislike them even more. Playing the devil's advocate, though, at least the Westboro folks were halfway efficient in broadcasting their opinions; the bozos at Jack Trice couldn't even manage to accomplish that.
Originally Posted by AirWalke
Originally Posted by Wesley
Peaple Eating Tasty Animals?
Being in heaven with them would be hell. :Devil:
Although they were somewhat annoying to me, just as embarassing (if not more) were the fans walking by that yelled explitives at them. Especially with children in hearing distance. "We are at a f***ing football game, not f***ing church a**hole", as I heard one fan say, was a bit over the line. Just ignore these people. They are looking for reaction, and the less they get the better. Some people were just proving their point in being there. I saw several middle fingers in their face. It takes a lot of patience and devotion to be those people holding the signs. So, instead of cussing at them, I hope others will just ignore in the future.
wow...I hope this is not true...how embarrassing if that is the case. Of course, what the bloody hell do I know...I find those f--K Iowa t-shirts truly embarrassing as well.
Originally Posted by iowast8fan
Now let me get back to "murder she wrote"
Last edited by monkeybrow; 09-05-2006 at 04:01 PM.
i did not see them but they are likely the same people that are outside of the library every spring and summer. they were actually on campus today doing the same thing. a girl was yelling with the big yellow banner. i believe they are a family and the guy says he knows jesus and has talked to him and i cant remember the whole story but i believe there might also be some reincarnation somewhere in his story. he tells everyone they are going to hell for going to college and blah blah blah and when people actually get up and talk to him about religion he is way out of his league. he enlists his family to do this and it is really just pathetic. not sure if this is him either but there are also some that walk around with big posters of aborted fetus's torn to shreds on campus also...pretty disturbing and uncalled for
I saw them, but I didn't let it ruin my day.
I chose to forgive them.
When someone has offended me, it used to make me angry... or sad... or anxious... or put me in a bad mood. Now, I find it much easier to simply forgive the aggressor. It removes the burden from me to try to be compassionate, to try to be understanding, of where they are coming from.
I forgive these people because they don't know any better - like a 1 month old child doesn't know that their crying can be irritating to others. All they know is how to garner attention to satisfy their needs.
It's pretty easy to see that this group is not there to share in the fellowship. They aren't there to reinforce a family atmosphere, especially their own. They are not there to spread the word of God's love, but to preach of their own mortal hate. They are there to disrupt, upset, and insult.
They don't know any better. I forgive them.
Thank you! I swore that I was the only one that found those as classless. I am pretty strongly against sports fans (or otherwise) wearing clothing that blatantly insults a rival or any other team. I think it is in poor taste, and simply demonstrates to "the other guys" that you and- by the absurd associations rampant in sport fandom- ALL fans of your team are the same sort of sloped-forehead, cussing, spitting, socially ******** rednecks and outcasts, or some such thing. I fail to see the point in wasting time and money insulting someone else when you could just be building your own program up in everyone else's eyes. Instead of buying that "F--k Iowa" shirt for the game, go buy a shirt that says "Cyclone Power" or just "Iowa State Football" on it. Hell, you could even go buy one of the "Beat Iowa- Again" shirts that pop up all the time. Rather than insulting the UI, promote ISU, and demonstrate that Cyclone fans honestly are a more educated, reasonable bunch. It's true, you know.
Originally Posted by monkeybrow
Although I don't feel like my religious affiliation should make my opinion matter anymore than the rest of your opinions, it seems like everyone is prefacing their comments by that so I will say, I too, am a christian. About the people at the game...obviously, like so many of you others have said before, there are MUCH better ways of going about spreading the Gospel. Threatening people is not exactly the best way to get through to them...but it is a good way of getting their attention. I'm not applauding their behavior or even condoning it, as I think what they're doing is not what Christianity is all about and is in a way, counterproductive. I do, however, think that in a small way they got what they wanted. The fact that we're talking about Christianity on this board is proof. I'm very happy to see that a lot of my fellow Cyclone fans are also devout Christians. If you weren't, I'd still cheer right along side you, but it's nice to know. I guess what I'm trying to say is, I agree with most all of what you people have said, but if this is one of the results from one of their tirades, albeit probably unintended, they at least succeeded in one small area, even if they didn't mean to.
Originally Posted by ornryactor
Intelligent and a musician....a most deadly combination for the feminine kind. I do envy you.
I saw the clean up crew assembling to clean the stadium after the game and I heard them say they were going to say a prayer before they start cleaning the stadium. (Insert jokes here.)
Does anyone know if the Jesus freaks and the cleaning crew were connected? If so, I don't think they should be asked back.