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Re: Sobering Facilities Comparison - A&M and ISU
 Originally Posted by mt85 All those advantages at A&M and Nebraska, yet both programs are in the process of firing their coaches. I love to see it, too. Those kind of resources and mediocre teams. Ha. Gives the have-nots at least a little hope.
I loved it even more when we went to A&M and smoked them. Most impressive win of the McCarney era, in my opinion.
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Re: Sobering Facilities Comparison - A&M and ISU
 Originally Posted by everyyard The other reason is they believe in winning. Some programs will tolerate losing for a long time...even as long as 12 years if all they ever get is mediocre. But these schools believe 7-5 is a bad year and anything worse intolerable. Good for them. That's very true. You get some people with cash and an school administration that believes in a winning athletic program together, and you're going to get taj mahal facilities. Probably also going to get some graft and corruption, but that's another story...
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Re: Sobering Facilities Comparison - A&M and ISU
Did you hear the one about the AM Aggie Mom?? She bought the Grand Champion STEER at the Texas State fair and proceeded to donate it to the Animal Science Dept @AM for Genetic research!!!!!
Aggie Mom's!
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Re: Sobering Facilities Comparison - A&M and ISU
I would love to see some math whiz on here put together a success/budget ratio and graph out the big 12 teams. I consider our athletic program as a whole decent for the money we have. But as JP as preached, we need to rake in the money to see more success.
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Re: Sobering Facilities Comparison - A&M and ISU
we kind of have a lounge at ISU, leather couches, chairs, Big TV. nothing like that though
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Re: Sobering Facilities Comparison - A&M and ISU
 Originally Posted by Bryceman Looks almost as nice as Lincoln's new heartthrob facilty with the 40 ft waterfall. Maybe the players become too complacent in nice surroundings. yeah but as a recruit, i would take coaching stability over "heartthrob facilities"...this goes for aTm and kNu -
Re: Sobering Facilities Comparison - A&M and ISU
I think one way to motivate donors is to send out videos showing what facilities our competition has, then show what we have. I think it would provide a better perspective to those who have never traveled to a game off campus.
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Re: Sobering Facilities Comparison - A&M and ISU
The Baylor baseball team lounge is comparable to the Texas A&M football one... Aparantly it is all compliments of Kip Wells...
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Re: Sobering Facilities Comparison - A&M and ISU
I'm a firm believer in the law of diminishing returns. I think we, as a program, need to have a basic set of facilities that meet the needs of our recruits. They should be nice, but not opulent.
We aren't selling houses here, we're selling a football program. I think we can be every bit as competitive as OK state, A&M, Nebraska, etc. without spending absurd amounts of money on facilities like they do. That isn't to say that the modest plan that JP has laid out for ISU is out of line, but championships aren't bought, they are earned.
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Re: Sobering Facilities Comparison - A&M and ISU
Paraphrasing: When Gillespie (SP) was negotiating his original contract, he asked for certain facility improvements for the basketball program. That Weekend A&M met with architects and engineers to determine preliminary designs/costs after speaking with a few alumni members. They met with Gillespie on Monday and told him it was done. Gillespie asked what the time frame would be..2,3 or 4 years. To which A&M officials replied, no it's done. They raised 18 million in 3 freaking days.
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Re: Sobering Facilities Comparison - A&M and ISU
Again... that is freak'n rediculous. I'm not as extreme as my friend in her disapproval of athletic spending vs academic spending... but I think this is one case where priorities are way out of whack... you don't see that happening when a professor needs a new lab or equipment for his class... Oh we will fight, fight, fight for Iowa State, and may her colors ever fly!!! In Accordance with Prophecy
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