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11-13-2007, 06:29 PM
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It appears fort collins has banned red and green lights from public displays. Rocky Mountain News - Denver and Colorado's reliable source for breaking news, sports and entertainment: Local
I guess I don't see how lighting schemes coerce people to follow Christianity. It's pretty funny actually.
At first I felt like I should be offended but I soon realized Christmas to Christians has little to do with lights, trees or garland. Fort Collins can ban away for all I care!
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'But I love the idea of the Sacrificial Lamb. . . There are consequences to actions. The point of the death of Christ is that Christ took on the sins of the world, so that what we put out did not come back to us, and that our sinful nature does not reap the obvious death. That's the point. It should keep us humbled. . . It's not our own good works that get us through the gates of heaven.'
Bono 3/12/04.
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11-13-2007, 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Incyte  I'm not sure how red and green lights are really any different than any other colored lights...
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11-13-2007, 08:31 PM
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#3 | | Hall-Of-Famer
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When you hang red and green lights together during the Christmas season they merge together, and they summon the wrath of Jesus to smite the non-believers. Kind of like Captain Planet.
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11-13-2007, 08:33 PM
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Are they going to take down the traffic lights?
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11-13-2007, 08:36 PM
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There's yellow in between the red and green on traffic lights, that makes it ok.
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11-13-2007, 08:53 PM
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Retards, the origional Christmas trees had candles on them - aka white lights. Some people... seroiusly. Way to ruin it for everyone by not wanting to offend a few people. Oh, lets go drive around and look at the PRETTY WHITE SNOW FLAKES IN STORE WINDOWS THAT HAVE NEXT TO NOTHING TO DO WITH THE HOLIDAY SEASON
"Screw this I'm going to 'Nam..."
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Oh we will fight, fight, fight for Iowa State, and may her colors ever fly! Innocents (Detective) - Winners of Mafia Game XIII Innocent and back the usual curse Game XIV  | |
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11-13-2007, 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by cmoneyr When you hang red and green lights together during the Christmas season they merge together, and they summon the wrath of Jesus to smite the non-believers. Kind of like Captain Planet. Alright, that was funny.
Seriously, people like this need to take the stick out of their ***
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Save us tonight, the last hope for all of us,
Light-years gone by, we're still holding on,
Save us tonight, a star shines in all of us,
Far beyond our lives, still our glory lives on.
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11-13-2007, 09:44 PM
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Snowflakes have nothing to do with the holiday season? Winter is the holiday season, I'd say snow fits.
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11-13-2007, 09:56 PM
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Winter is not Christmas, Christmas takes place in winter. That is a lose connection... when you think "Christmas" you think trees, presents, lights, Jesus's birth if you're a Christian, and oh maybe there is a white back ground depending on where you live...
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Oh we will fight, fight, fight for Iowa State, and may her colors ever fly! Innocents (Detective) - Winners of Mafia Game XIII Innocent and back the usual curse Game XIV | |
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11-13-2007, 10:37 PM
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.......it's beginning to look a lot like Russia......everywhere we goooo |
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11-13-2007, 10:42 PM
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While this is some serious stupid and I don't agree, it is just the city property that is affected, no one is telling individual citizens what they can and can not display.
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11-13-2007, 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Flag Guy Winter is not Christmas, Christmas takes place in winter. That is a lose connection... when you think "Christmas" you think trees, presents, lights, Jesus's birth if you're a Christian, and oh maybe there is a white back ground depending on where you live... Christmas takes place in December, December is in the winter, winter is largely associated with snow, snow is made of snowflakes, shall I slow down?
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11-13-2007, 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Flag Guy Winter is not Christmas, Christmas takes place in winter. That is a lose connection... when you think "Christmas" you think trees, presents, lights, Jesus's birth if you're a Christian, and oh maybe there is a white back ground depending on where you live... Originally Posted by cmoneyr Christmas takes place in December, December is in the winter, winter is largely associated with snow, snow is made of snowflakes, shall I slow down? Congratulations, you repeated what I said. People celebrate Christmas in the places without snow too though... and snow can be associated with more than just Christmas.
I've been swimming in the Atlantic ocean on Christmas Day, and have had many green christmas's. There is a lot more to Christmas than just a snow flake. Shall I slow down?
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Oh we will fight, fight, fight for Iowa State, and may her colors ever fly! Innocents (Detective) - Winners of Mafia Game XIII Innocent and back the usual curse Game XIV | |
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11-13-2007, 11:26 PM
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You were ranting before about PEOPLE WHO PUT SNOWFLAKES IN WINDOWS THAT HAVE NEXT TO NOTHING TO DO WITH THE HOLIDAY SEASON (your caps not mine). But snow and snowflakes do have something to do with the holiday season. Holiday season extends through most of December and into January, that is winter, and now we're back to what winter brings. Thank you for bringing me up to date on the fact that their are different climates throughout the world, obviously though I'm talking about Iowa and Ames more specifically since that is where we live. In Iowa, the thought of winter would be very closely followed by the thought of snow. So yes, snowflakes do have SOMETHING TO DO WITH THE HOLIDAY SEASON (your caps not mine).
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11-13-2007, 11:36 PM
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Winter actually begins December 21st/22nd and ends in March around the 21st/22nd. Snow and Christmas go together but it is not as big of an icon as other symbols, which was my point
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Oh we will fight, fight, fight for Iowa State, and may her colors ever fly! Innocents (Detective) - Winners of Mafia Game XIII Innocent and back the usual curse Game XIV | |
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