Big trouble in Iowa City

**jbhtexas** · 11-19-2007, 09:54 AM

Originally Posted by cygrads

At what point does Corporal Kirk start to take some responsibility?

More like Colonel Klink...the prisoners are running the camp...

**cygrads** · 11-19-2007, 10:21 AM

Originally Posted by jbhtexas

More like Colonel Klink...the prisoners are running the camp...

I didn't think he deserved the rank of Colonel but you make a good point about Klink!

**herbiedoobie** · 11-19-2007, 11:10 AM

Originally Posted by tim_redd

Thanks. I know it's not your fault, but that video is god-awful.

True dat. In fact, maybe it's a bleedover from work, but I was halfway waiting for the dude to blow up the IED and shriek Allah Akhbar! or something.

I.C. Insurgent video.

**jumbopackage** · 11-19-2007, 11:13 AM

Originally Posted by cygrads

Didn't the former CU coach ultimately loose his job due to lack of institutional control?

Well yeah, but this was after he blamed Katie Hnida for being raped. Kirk hasn't quite gone that far yet.

**letsgostate** · 11-19-2007, 04:15 PM

We all need to remember, that surrounding all of this is a young woman who may have been violated and may not have been treated with the due process she deserves. This is a terrible thing and justice must be served. I don't look at this with glee, only pity for the victim here..lets all keep this in perspective. It's about how Iowa is treating a college coed.

**redrocker** · 11-19-2007, 04:29 PM

Originally Posted by letsgostate

We all need to remember, that surrounding all of this is a young woman who may have been violated and may not have been treated with the due process she deserves. This is a terrible thing and justice must be served. I don't look at this with glee, only pity for the victim here..lets all keep this in perspective. It's about how Iowa is treating a college coed.

I aggree!

**ketelmeister** · 11-19-2007, 08:50 PM

Originally Posted by letsgostate

We all need to remember, that surrounding all of this is a young woman who may have been violated and may not have been treated with the due process she deserves. This is a terrible thing and justice must be served. I don't look at this with glee, only pity for the victim here..lets all keep this in perspective. It's about how Iowa is treating a college coed.

This is what the story is all about. What is being withheld at the U of I? If it quacks like a hawk, smells like a hawk and looks like a hawk, it must be a hawk.

**cyclonedcm** · 11-19-2007, 09:29 PM

KF is the head man and deserves to go.

**ISUAlum2002** · 11-19-2007, 09:33 PM

Originally Posted by jumbopackage

Well yeah, but this was after he blamed Katie Hnida for being raped. Kirk hasn't quite gone that far yet.

Don't forget that on top of allowing herself to get raped, she was a bad kicker as well.

**ketelmeister** · 11-20-2007, 07:21 AM

Sobering stat: Only 6% of college sexual assaults are reported, and of those convictions are tough to get. Worst case senario is letting the athletic department investigate as apparently has happened in Iowa City.
below from a Vermont case:

School Favors Football Players
While a student at Virginia Tech in September 1994, Christy Brzonkala reported she was raped by two football players. In an academic disciplinary hearing, the university found one athlete not guilty; the other was found guilty and suspended for two semesters. But the school later reversed its decision—just in time for him to rejoin the football team for its fall opening game and regain a full athletic scholarship. Once the school exonerated both players, Brzonkala sued the athletes and the school for violating her civil rights under the Violence Against Women Act (VAWA). Brzonkala's suit also sought to prevent Virginia Tech from ever again privately adjudicating felonious sexual assault and argued that the preferential treatment given to male athletes was a violation of Title IX.