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Re: Jon Miller
 Originally Posted by wonkadog Uh, there seems to be a ton (%-wise) of ISU and Iowa meets on every single year on IPTV. A lot more than you'd think would be televised anyway. I'll agree that it does seem that way, but I just IPTV's college wrestling website, and I only see four scheduled meets, and one of those is Div. III. College Wrestling
Iowa v. ISU, Dec. 9
ISU v. UNI, Dec. 16
Iowa Conference Championships, Feb. 21
Nebraska v. ISU, Feb. 24
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Re: Jon Miller
 Originally Posted by trevn I find it rather convenient that wrestling is dominating the conversation today on Miller and on SoundOff last night. Wrestling is the new favorite sport for most Hawk fans because that is one of the few sports they actually beat us at this year. I've got a question, would wrestling be dominating the conversation on Miller today had ISU won? I'll give you that it was an upset and our basketball teams aren't exactly spectacular, but wrestling usually doesn't get this much press, especially after an Iowa/ISU basketball game happening on the same weekend. Right or wrong, the press typically pays more attention to men's basketball here, even though wrestling is popular. Not trying to be a hater Jon, I like your show and listen whenever I can, but it does seem convenient. You are joking on Wrestling being the new favorite sport for Iowa fans, right? If ISU had won, I would have had Andy Hamilton on at 2:30 to talk about it, and I would have had Cael on at 3:05 to talk about it, and then played the Brands post match audio at 3:30.
It is one of the biggest sporting events in this state, each year, and right now, what else locally is worthy of leading off the week with, if not this? The men's basketball teams? That's tough to go for two hours on...I will talk to coaches from both sides later this week.
Iowa and ISU women's hoops? The board would be ripping me for spending time on that so much...
The Iowa Energy? Not gonna do that probably
Iowans love wrestling...not all, but a lot of them....and the annual Iowa-Iowa State dual meet has been the biggest attraction in the sport, outside of the national tournament for the majority of the past 25 years...the entire sport.
I think at times even Iowans take all of this for granted.
Last edited by JonDMiller; 12-10-2007 at 03:26 PM.
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Re: Jon Miller
 Originally Posted by trevn I find it rather convenient that wrestling is dominating the conversation today on Miller and on SoundOff last night. Wrestling is the new favorite sport for most Hawk fans because that is one of the few sports they actually beat us at this year. I've got a question, would wrestling be dominating the conversation on Miller today had ISU won? I'll give you that it was an upset and our basketball teams aren't exactly spectacular, but wrestling usually doesn't get this much press, especially after an Iowa/ISU basketball game happening on the same weekend. Right or wrong, the press typically pays more attention to men's basketball here, even though wrestling is popular. Not trying to be a hater Jon, I like your show and listen whenever I can, but it does seem convenient. Convenient like when Jon missed the Monday show after the football team choked away their shot at a bowl game.
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Re: Jon Miller
 Originally Posted by ISU BET agreed. i do enjoy following wrestling, and i think that the majority of those who don't enjoy it feel that way due to a lack of exposure. the state of iowa has a lot of respect for its wrestling programs from little kids all the way through the college ranks, and it still doesn't get a lot of publicity from the local media. if they televised half as many wrestling meets as they did basketball games, i think you might see a spike in interest in the sport-especially with the b-ball teams we have been displaying the last few years. Actually, I really dislike wrestling, on every level. I've been plenty exposed to it, and I just don't like it. I'm not even apathetic towards it, I actually dislike it. I've been to plenty of meets before. Hell I sat next to Gable at an Iowa meet one time (used to date a wrestler's sister). Watched it a few times on TV. Wrestled in gym class in high school etc. etc. etc.
I don't think the majority of people who don't' enjoy it don't enjoy it because it doesn't get enough exposure, I just don't think even a majority of Iowans enjoy it because it's just not exciting. On top of that, there's also the "nastiness" factor. There are a whole lot of things I'd rather do than watch a couple guys in leotards try to hold each other to the ground against their will.
That doesn't mean I won't cheer for the cyclone wrestlers, it just means that I don't like wrestling.
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Re: Jon Miller
 Originally Posted by thunderdave Convenient like when Jon missed the Monday show after the football team choked away their shot at a bowl game. If you guys worked in radio in this market, you would know that that day is not a day you would want to miss...that's basically a show up for work 2 minutes before you go on the air day....those are the days that you want to work, even though Iowa lost and I support Iowa, it's an easy show, even a fun show. I would have much rather dealt with that than coughing up green gack.
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Re: Jon Miller
 Originally Posted by trevn I find it rather convenient that wrestling is dominating the conversation today on Miller and on SoundOff last night. Wrestling is the new favorite sport for most Hawk fans because that is one of the few sports they actually beat us at this year. I've got a question, would wrestling be dominating the conversation on Miller today had ISU won? I'll give you that it was an upset and our basketball teams aren't exactly spectacular, but wrestling usually doesn't get this much press, especially after an Iowa/ISU basketball game happening on the same weekend. Right or wrong, the press typically pays more attention to men's basketball here, even though wrestling is popular. Not trying to be a hater Jon, I like your show and listen whenever I can, but it does seem convenient. If you were an Iowa fan, why wouldn't you talk about the one positive thing you have going for you right now? For Iowa, that's wrestling.
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Re: Jon Miller
 Originally Posted by cybsball20 Is Miller honestly spending the ENTIRE show on Wrestling... I realize some of you like the sport but I would guess the overwhelming majority doesn't care much...
Miller really doesnt know anything about any sport except football...his show is as close to impossible to listen to outside of football season. That's just the truth...Dikta or any other football guy doesnt break down the NBA or MLB dont know why KXNO pays JM to be on air outside of college football season.
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Re: Jon Miller
 Originally Posted by JonDMiller If you guys worked in radio in this market, you would know that that day is not a day you would want to miss...that's basically a show up for work 2 minutes before you go on the air day....those are the days that you want to work, even though Iowa lost and I support Iowa, it's an easy show, even a fun show. I would have much rather dealt with that than coughing up green gack. Jon, I'm just giving you a bad time. It wouldn't have been so bad, if your replacements weren't talking about off-season MLB moves for most of the show.
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Re: Jon Miller
 Originally Posted by JonDMiller You are joking on Wrestling being the new favorite sport for Iowa fans, right? If ISU had won, I would have had Andy Hamilton on at 2:30 to talk about it, and I would have had Cael on at 3:05 to talk about it, and then played the Brands post match audio at 3:30.
It is one of the biggest sporting events in this state, each year, and right now, what else locally is worthy of leading off the week with, if not this? The men's basketball teams? That's tough to go for two hours on...I will talk to coaches from both sides later this week.
Iowa and ISU women's hoops? The board would be ripping me for spending time on that so much...
The Iowa Energy? Not gonna do that probably
Iowans love wrestling...not all, but a lot of them....and the annual Iowa-Iowa State dual meet has been the biggest attraction in the sport, outside of the national tournament for the majority of the past 25 years...the entire sport.
I think at times even Iowans take all of this for granted. Jon, you will never convince me that more people, even in Iowa, care more about ISU vs. Iowa in wrestling than ISU vs Iowa in Basketball. It isn't even close. We could not compare the support for the two because it is like comparing apples and oranges. Even in wrestlings best state, it is still second fiddle to basketball. The SECOND biggest sporting event in Iowa every year is ISU vs Iowa basketball.
That is why ISU beating the hawkeyes should have been your lead story.
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Re: Jon Miller
 Originally Posted by JonDMiller You are joking on Wrestling being the new favorite sport for Iowa fans, right? Yes, it was tounge in cheek. It's obviously football and it's not even close. Just a little jab   Originally Posted by JonDMiller It is one of the biggest sporting events in this state, each year, and right now, what else locally is worthy of leading off the week with, if not this? The men's basketball teams? That's tough to go for two hours on...I will talk to coaches from both sides later this week. I think it deserves a little more time even though both teams are bad. I agree it's tough to go 2 hours on though.  Originally Posted by JonDMiller The Iowa Energy? That topic is occupied. lol...you're right there, that might be a topic for the other Miller to tackle! I feel a fight brewing in the studio between the hours of 4 and 7.  Originally Posted by JonDMiller Iowans love wrestling...not all, but a lot of them....and the annual Iowa-Iowa State dual meet has been the biggest attraction in the sport, outside of the national tournament for the majority of the past 25 years...the entire sport.
I think at times even Iowans take all of this for granted. I agree, put me in the boat for taking it for granted too. But why is this the year to bring that much-needed attention to it? Just curiousity on my part. There have been a lot of huge matchups between Iowa/ISU in wrestling over the years but I've never heard as much about the meet as I did this year. It's not just you, it's most every media outlet in the state. They act as if the men's basketball game didn't even happen.
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Re: Jon Miller
 Originally Posted by 'Clones Fan Jon, you will never convince me that more people, even in Iowa, care more about ISU vs. Iowa in wrestling than ISU vs Iowa in Basketball. It isn't even close. We could not compare the support for the two because it is like comparing apples and oranges. Even in wrestlings best state, it is still second fiddle to basketball. The SECOND biggest sporting event in Iowa every year is ISU vs Iowa basketball.
That is why ISU beating the hawkeyes should have been your lead story. In most years, I don't disagree with you. This year, and I am on the message boards for both teams every single day, and I talk to fans from both schools every single day, and I take calls and get emails from fans every single day, this year, the Iowa-ISU dual meet was much more discussed and talked about.
Go back here on the boards leading up to the Iowa-ISU MBB game Saturday, and see for yourself. It was the same everywhere.
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Re: Jon Miller
 Originally Posted by 'Clones Fan Jon, you will never convince me that more people, even in Iowa, care more about ISU vs. Iowa in wrestling than ISU vs Iowa in Basketball. It isn't even close. We could not compare the support for the two because it is like comparing apples and oranges. Even in wrestlings best state, it is still second fiddle to basketball. The SECOND biggest sporting event in Iowa every year is ISU vs Iowa basketball.
That is why ISU beating the hawkeyes should have been your lead story. So true...ask anyone ISU or UI to name 5 wrestlers then ask the same 5 to name basketball players.
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Re: Jon Miller
 Originally Posted by trevn I agree, put me in the boat for taking it for granted too. But why is this the year to bring that much-needed attention to it? Just curiousity on my part. There have been a lot of huge matchups between Iowa/ISU in wrestling over the years but I've never heard as much about the meet as I did this year. It's not just you, it's most every media outlet in the state. They act as if the men's basketball game didn't even happen. Have Iowa and ISU MBB ever been this bad at the same time? There is your answer
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Re: Jon Miller
 Originally Posted by JonDMiller Have Iowa and ISU MBB ever been this bad at the same time? There is your answer And yet Hilton was still packed, that should tell you what you need to know about ISU vs. Iowa bsketball.
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Re: Jon Miller
 Originally Posted by JonDMiller Have Iowa and ISU MBB ever been this bad at the same time? There is your answer
Your just ****** you banked all this airtime for the Hawkeye bowl game talk!
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