Who is your all-time favorite basketball starting five Clones?

**Wesley** · 05-16-2006, 04:33 PM

Here is a great starting list to choose from:

Guards: Fred Hoiberg, Hercle Ivy, Dedric Willoughby, Barry Stevens, Sam Mack, Will Blalock, Curtis Stinson, Gary Thompson, Jamaal Tinsley, Zaid Abdul-Aziz, Jake Sullivan, Justin Thigpen, Michael Nurse, & Jeff Hornacek.

Forwards: Kantrall Horton, Jeff Grayer, Marcus Fizer, Rashon Clark, Dean Uthoff, Julius Michlivik, & Lafester Rhodes.

Centers; Kelvin Cato, Loren Meyer, Jared Homan, Victor Alexander, & Bill Cain.

Looking for the experts to weigh in for the best five starters. remember that yoiu want the best team. You may want to explain why you chose your five. Should be interesting.

**clone33** · 05-16-2006, 04:50 PM

G-Jeff Grayer
G-Barry Stevens
F- Lafester Rhodes
F-Fizer
C-Kato

It was a hard decision for the guards, I really want to put Gary Thompson in there but i never saw him play so i dont thinkits fair for me to put him in. I also wanted Sullivan, TinsleyBlalock, Stinson and all the other more recent guys. Some would argue about Lafester but i love that man for what he did to Iowa.

**evan** · 05-16-2006, 04:50 PM

.... I think this team has the best" Bang-For-The Buck" chemistry ...too bad they all were'nt born 17 years ago.. ;D

Guards... Jeff Hornacek(smart,"scrappydog" that can shoot a free throw) -- Jamaal Tinsley("Bad Too The Bone" PG)

Forwards... Marcus Fizer(my PF... P-stands for "POWER") --- Jeff Grayer (too bad there was'nt a 3-point line)

Center ...at first I thought Kelvin Cato .... then I decided that this is a tough choice here... as I think I would want Victor Alexander's "Bulldozer-Big-Arse" setting up picks and screening out for rebounds for this crew.... Victor Alexander it is... just for the chemistry of the above team... let the rest of them run and gun... I want a Sherman tank with a 50-axe handle wide backside breaking an opponent's hip when he's screening out for a rebound....(which reminds me nothing of this year's big, badboy basketball team >:( )

**cgwarrior33** · 05-16-2006, 05:05 PM

what?! no Ahkeem Abdul-Kahliq....i will forever and always have cyclone fever baby!!! oo by the way..i still have that special on tape..haha.

**melkor** · 05-16-2006, 05:08 PM

G - Tinsley
G - Hoiberg
F - Grayer
F - Fizer
F - Cato

**evan** · 05-16-2006, 05:28 PM

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what?! no Ahkeem Abdul-Kahliq....i will forever and always have cyclone fever baby!!! oo by the way..i still have that special on tape..haha.
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... did he play in the Dean Uthoff era...(actually , I'll look it up... I remember his name as a rebounding leader...*I Think* ...maybe yes ... maybe no ???? ??? )

**cmoore_23** · 05-16-2006, 05:33 PM

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what?! no Ahkeem Abdul-Kahliq....i will forever and always have cyclone fever baby!!! oo by the way..i still have that special on tape..haha.
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he was the coolest!!! and the funniest

**cgwarrior33** · 05-16-2006, 09:36 PM

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what?! no Ahkeem Abdul-Kahliq....i will forever and always have cyclone fever baby!!! oo by the way..i still have that special on tape..haha.
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... did he play in the Dean Uthoff era...(actually , I'll look it up... I remember his name as a rebounding leader...*I Think* ...maybe yes ... maybe no ???? ??? )
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haha. no Abdul-Kahliq saw the floor about as much as i have for the cyclones. he was a walk on i believe but a true character and funny guy. he was with the Willoughby group. he did the cyclone fever is runnin' rampant thing when Keith Murphy was still with WOI. he was just a fun player.

**discombobulated** · 05-16-2006, 10:06 PM

G-Tinsley
G-Hoiberg
F-Grayer
F-Pratt (best 6'2 power forward of all time)
C-Fizer

**bluehooper** · 05-16-2006, 11:32 PM

G - Hornacek - sub, Tinsley
G - Hoiberg - sub, Willoughby
F - Grayer - sub, Stevens
F - Fizer - sub, Homan
C - Alexander - sub, Cato

**mbringle** · 05-17-2006, 12:25 AM

Taking their best seasons and what strengths that each player would bring to the team my lineup...

PG- toss up, same assist avg, close steal avg, reb avg, blaylock better shooter, tinsley avg almost 1 more turnover per game. I think the edge goes to Tinsley only because of the success he had while at ISU. If Blaylock would have returned for next yr I think a case could be made for him.
Tinsley 00-01 14.3ppg, 6.0 apg, 2.5 steals, 3.8 rpg
Blaylock 05-06 15.4ppg, 6.1apg, 2.2 steals, 3.3 rpg

SG Hoiberg - 93-94 year complete player, 20.2pts, 6.7rpg, 3.6 asst,1.7 steals, 45% FG from 3pt
SF Grayer - 87-88 25.3ppg, 9.4rpg enough said
PF Fizer - 99-00 22.8ppg, 7.7rpg ditto
C Cato - 96-97 11.3ppg, 8.4rpg, 4.2 blocks. Don't need scoring from this position and Alexander was too slow. Cato provides the defensive pressence and rebounding to complement the other players on the team.

Weakness might be outside shooting as Hoiberg is the only true threat.

**melkor** · 05-17-2006, 12:56 PM

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Taking their best seasons and what strengths that each player would bring to the team my lineup...

PG- toss up, same assist avg, close steal avg, reb avg, blaylock better shooter, tinsley avg almost 1 more turnover per game. I think the edge goes to Tinsley only because of the success he had while at ISU. If Blaylock would have returned for next yr I think a case could be made for him.
Tinsley 00-01 14.3ppg, 6.0 apg, 2.5 steals, 3.8 rpg
Blaylock 05-06 15.4ppg, 6.1apg, 2.2 steals, 3.3 rpg

SG Hoiberg - 93-94 year complete player, 20.2pts, 6.7rpg, 3.6 asst,1.7 steals, 45% FG from 3pt
SF Grayer - 87-88 25.3ppg, 9.4rpg enough said
PF Fizer - 99-00 22.8ppg, 7.7rpg ditto
C Cato - 96-97 11.3ppg, 8.4rpg, 4.2 blocks. Don't need scoring from this position and Alexander was too slow. Cato provides the defensive pressence and rebounding to complement the other players on the team.

Weakness might be outside shooting as Hoiberg is the only true threat.

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Don't forget that Jamal could easily have scored more if he wanted or needed to. He also blocked quite a few shots for a pg. Also, several of his turnover came from the other guys not being ready for his no look passes. As much as I like Blalock, there is no way i would even consider picking him over Jamal.

**Cloney22** · 05-17-2006, 01:04 PM

G - Tinsley
G - Thigpen
G - Willoughby
F - Fizer
C - Cato

**kuney1** · 05-17-2006, 01:06 PM

I agree with melkor, Tinsley would get the nod over Blalock. Jamall although not as a prolific scorer had better leadership attributes. Does anyone ever remember Jamall calling out his teammates as Will did last year? Of course Jamall also had a coach who wouldn't put up with that.