Does KU still have BCS hopes?

ISUboi12 · 11-25-2007, 01:13 AM

At 11-1 and their lone loss coming to what will be the #2 ranked team in the nation. Does KU deserve a shot at a BCS at large if Missouri wins the B12 championship?

twojman · 11-25-2007, 01:15 AM

I would think so. Best case 4 the big 12 is mizzou winning the Big 12 and going to the National championship, KU shoudl get an at-large bid.

We should still have a playoff.....

AirWalke · 11-25-2007, 01:22 AM

Yes, if Missouri wins out and plays for the national championship, then Kansas still has a shot at a BCS bid seeing as they will probably not drop far from the #2 spot.

Man, that feels really weird to say.

CyBandCG · 11-25-2007, 02:03 AM

What helps KU is the made a game of it in the 4th quarter, I think if they had gotten blown out like it looked they would then that would have hurt them. Gonna be an interesting end to a crazy season of College Football.

uthaman · 11-25-2007, 07:08 AM

Yes! Missouri winning is actually the best case scenario for Iowa State. Now the Big XII stands a good chance of getting two teams in the BCS. That will mean about an extra $1 million dollars for Iowa State....

Cyclonepride · 11-25-2007, 07:08 AM

They definitely deserve a BCS game, and I think they will get it. I'm hoping for Missouri/ West Virginia in the championship game.

jdoggivjc · 11-25-2007, 07:19 AM

I think in an average BCS year (2-3 undefeated teams with several 1-loss teams) with only the 8 spots it used to have there's no chance they'd get to a BCS game (look how many times the BCS had to implement a "K-State" rule simply because deserving K-State teams got left out in the cold because they weren't a desirable team). I think in this day and age, go 11-1 and you pretty much auto-qualify, maybe even if you're a non-BCS school.

MNclone · 11-25-2007, 08:42 AM

I think we will have 2 in the BCS even if Oklahoma wins next week. There is no way Missouri would drop out of the top 14.

Stormin · 11-25-2007, 08:55 AM

Originally Posted by MNclone

I think we will have 2 in the BCS even if Oklahoma wins next week. There is no way Missouri would drop out of the top 14.

KU is out of the Championship game. They have to hope for a Mizzou win to make a BCS bowl. I think the Big XII is almost a lock for 2 BCS bowls. I think West Virginia is a lock for the Championship if they beat Pitt. Only way Ohio State sneaks in is if someone loses. And Ohio State's schedule is a little weak. Big Ten was really down this year.

cys_av8r · 11-25-2007, 08:57 AM

Originally Posted by Stormin

Big Ten was really down this year.

Luckily Michigan is seriously considering Kirk "The Warden" Ferentz for their head job so he can bring the Wolerverines and the Big 10 back to the top!

jdoggivjc · 11-26-2007, 08:21 AM

KU's at #5 BCS and they don't play another game. They're solid as far as the BCS goes.

brianhos · 11-26-2007, 08:22 AM

KU is already in. If OU wins it will be OU and KU, if Mizz wins it will be KU and Mizz.

ahaselhu · 11-26-2007, 08:54 AM

I don't think that's necessarily true. If Oklahoma wins, KU will likely move up to number 4 (which would give them an automatic BCS bid). Its possible however that if Virginia Tech beats Boston College in the ACC championship game that they could jump over Kansas into the 4 spot. Only the top 4 teams are guaranteed a BCS bowl. I'm not entirely certain that the BCS would select a 1 loss Kansas team over a 2 loss Missouri team that beat them in the last game of the regular season.

I think Kansas either needs Missouri to win, or Virginia Tech/West Virginia to lose to be guaranteed a BCS game.

jdoggivjc · 11-26-2007, 09:41 AM

Originally Posted by ahaselhu

I don't think that's necessarily true. If Oklahoma wins, KU will likely move up to number 4 (which would give them an automatic BCS bid). Its possible however that if Virginia Tech beats Boston College in the ACC championship game that they could jump over Kansas into the 4 spot. Only the top 4 teams are guaranteed a BCS bowl. I'm not entirely certain that the BCS would select a 1 loss Kansas team over a 2 loss Missouri team that beat them in the last game of the regular season.

I think Kansas either needs Missouri to win, or Virginia Tech/West Virginia to lose to be guaranteed a BCS game.

You forget if Va Tech beats Boston College Va Tech gets an auto bid. In your scenario, that would mean Va Tech, Ohio St, and West Virginia with auto bids, all rated higher than Kansas. Both Georgia and Kansas are sitting very pretty right now, at #4 and #5 respectively. The only way I see Kansas getting left out of the party is if Missouri loses on Saturday and drops in front of Kansas. That would fill the Big XII's quota with Oklahoma getting the auto bid and Missouri getting the second bid, leaving Kansas outside looking in, even though they're #5. It's the only way Kansas gets left out.

I think the "top 4" scenario comes into play if you're trying to decide between inserting a #12 Hawaii vs. a #5 Kansas (where the BCS would be obliged to take Hawaii and Kansas would be left out if Kansas were the last available at-large team), not a #5 Kansas vs. a #6 Missouri.

ahaselhu · 11-26-2007, 10:21 AM

Originally Posted by jdoggivjc

You forget if Va Tech beats Boston College Va Tech gets an auto bid. In your scenario, that would mean Va Tech, Ohio St, and West Virginia with auto bids, all rated higher than Kansas. Both Georgia and Kansas are sitting very pretty right now, at #4 and #5 respectively. The only way I see Kansas getting left out of the party is if Missouri loses on Saturday and drops in front of Kansas. That would fill the Big XII's quota with Oklahoma getting the auto bid and Missouri getting the second bid, leaving Kansas outside looking in, even though they're #5. It's the only way Kansas gets left out.

I think the "top 4" scenario comes into play if you're trying to decide between inserting a #12 Hawaii vs. a #5 Kansas (where the BCS would be obliged to take Hawaii and Kansas would be left out if Kansas were the last available at-large team), not a #5 Kansas vs. a #6 Missouri.

It doesn't matter if Virginia Tech gets an auto-bid, the important thing is that it would knock KU out of the #4 slot. Only the top 4 in the BCS get automatic bids. If KU ends up #5, there is no guarantee they're in. Additionally, the BCS bowls aren't required to pick the team that is higher in the BCS. They could still choose to take Missouri over Kansas, even if Kansas is ranked higher (as long as they're not in the top 4).