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12-03-2007, 03:55 PM
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.. for the second time, along with Steve *****.
Actually, it was a compliment to ISU - but still funny the overall point.
Said that iowa shouldn't schedule Iowa State, Pittsburgh, Arizona State, etc - because really the way the BCS is setup, SOS means nothing. That they should schedule a bunch of nobodys and get to 7 wins and a decent bowl. 9 wins gets them to probably a min of the Cap One bowl.
Ahem..... Western Michigan, NIU and Syracuse. Sagarin #'s 103, 110, 144 - along with ISU's ever so humble 93. And they still went 2-2.
Who's left for iowa?
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12-03-2007, 03:56 PM
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12-03-2007, 03:57 PM
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How much easier of a schedule can they want?
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12-03-2007, 03:57 PM
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Apparently, they shouldn't schedule Lousiana-Monroe as a patsy in their tourney for BBall, either.  | | | |
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12-03-2007, 03:57 PM
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But he also said we shouldn't be playing the likes of Iowa and Utah either.
He's kind of got a point. Need 7 wins to guarantee a Bowl bid.
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12-03-2007, 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by ISUFan22  How much easier of a schedule can they want? Ah, I'm just picking on him a bit. He's not wrong as evidenced by a couple of the BCS players this year.
But on the heels of this season - I found it rather funny.... Originally Posted by psycln11 But he also said we shouldn't be playing the likes of Iowa and Utah either.
He's kind of got a point. Need 7 wins to guarantee a Bowl bid. I know. But I'm not hearing much of the same talk out of our camp. Not playing iowa, don't play Utah. I think most ISU fans are a little psyched to up the competition a bit.
Point being - who's left?
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12-03-2007, 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by psycln11 But he also said we shouldn't be playing the likes of Iowa and Utah either.
He's kind of got a point. Need 7 wins to guarantee a Bowl bid. What does he suggest? Schedule UNI? Oh, wait............ |
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12-03-2007, 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by SuperCy What does he suggest? Schedule UNI? Oh, wait............ Nah...beatable teams like Western Michigan!!  | | | |
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12-03-2007, 04:00 PM
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You kind of have to agree if you took Iowa or even UNI off the schedule and filled them in with as many as you can North Dakota's and Temple's and Florida International's make it as easy as possible to get big win #'s ala Kansas
I think the NCAA should mandate a non-conference BCS conf vs BCS conf challenge to start the year. Make the product better instead of worse.
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12-03-2007, 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by psycln11 But he also said we shouldn't be playing the likes of Iowa and Utah either.
He's kind of got a point. Need 7 wins to guarantee a Bowl bid. If we want 7 wins, we SHOULD schedule Iowa. How many other teams can we beat 7 out of 10 times?
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12-03-2007, 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by DaddyMac
Ahem..... Western Michigan, NIU and Syracuse. Sagarin #'s 103, 110, 144 - along with ISU's ever so humble 93. And they still went 2-2.
Who's left for iowa?
Newsflash - schedule isn't the problem. LOL
Touche
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12-03-2007, 04:02 PM
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I see his point and should be used in other situation than Iowa. We are now going to see everyone play cupcakes to get past that 7 win mark.
So once Chizek gets a team together we need to play:
4 cupackes and win just 3 conference games and bam....If your fans travel well you will be invited to a decent bowl. ISU has a disadvantage with most of our bowls being in Texas, but you get the point.
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12-03-2007, 04:05 PM
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Completely agree. Wins are more important than anything.
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12-03-2007, 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by JonDMiller LOL
Touche Gotta admit Jon, you get alot done - posting on boards during commercials...  | | | |
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12-03-2007, 04:08 PM
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You can win the non-conference cupcake games. But if you are going get to bigger bowls and get more media attention you need to win conference games. Why should we settle for 7 wins and a mediocre bowl game when we can have better, I think that is the new goal of this program.
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