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12-06-2007, 03:38 AM
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#166 | | Prospect
Join Date: Nov 2007
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This is gonna be long. This team is "broken" in many ways. There are too many factors, many have been noted. This young season has had its problems. Injuries, Lucca, defection, bad losses, etc.
Injuries to key players can break a team. If you've ever played on a competitive, organized team (HS, College, etc.); when a star player(s) or team leaders go down, it affects the team. Confidence, doubt, and environment changes - usually not positive.
Granted, I'm not in the gym and can only guess:
Jiri - experienced, veteran. Early injury slowed him and may be limiting his production. However, he's just not good. Mac improved his post play dramatically, but he's still terrible. He's been fighting himself to decide between post or perimeter player. He's neither right now, and it doesn't help the team. If he can convince himself to be an inside force, that could help.
Lucca - could be a huge difference, but nobody really knows. The turmoil surrounding him HAS to be a burden on everyone. If he's as good as it sounds he should be, his suspension could be a deflating blow to the entire team. Look at everyone on this board - we all feel for the guy. Imagine being his teammate. Even if he was playing, the effects of others' injuries may offset his presence.
Wes - We all know that at 100%, he could be a huge difference. Everyone knows he was the star player, and his injury is, IMO, the main catalyst behind this 'broken' team. He should not be on the floor, unfortunately. His abilities aren't there. His practice time probably lacks, which doesn't improve team chemistry. Seek the medical redshirt. At least the question mark will be gone.
Rashon - Love him. Team leader. He's what you want in a player. Good skills, athletic - just not enough skills to make a real difference. He could thrive if the team was healthy and as productive as they could be. But he can't overcome everything by himself.
BP - I was at the OSU game last week. He's not very good. I do give him credit - he appears to know 'what' to do. I think he "gets it". That's the #1 reason he's starting. He just can't perform at the level he needs to.
DG - Skills, athleticism are there. Gets a little too 'pretty' with the ball. Not finishing. DG's skills with BP's brain? Look out! He'll get there. May be a season away, but I think he'll get it.
Brack - Doing everything he can at this stage. He'll be a stud. Needs supporting cast to perform. Backcourt is killing him. With no backcourt threat to drive or shoot, CB can't reach his potential. A healthy Wes and Lucca on the court? That would make a difference.
SH - Hustle. Good defender. Knows the game. Much like BP, has the mind but not the ability. Poor kid can't get a shot to drop. That's gotta be SO far in his head.
AT - Just don't know. Not what he should be. Made a mysterious "appearance" at OSU. If he could play at even 1/2 of what he did in that game, he's be a great help. I see more of the same from AT. An occasional good game, but not consistent.
Booz - Not enough PT to know. Unless his defense is pitiful, get him some PT.
CJ - Love the hustle, but not tall/versatile enough to be a PF/C and not quick/agile enough to be anything else.
Rest of team - not ready yet or not D1 material.
If not for the early/lingering injuries and Lucca fiasco, I think this team would be SO much better. Happier, more confident, more comfortable, etc. The situations have broken this team. Can it be repaired? Maybe. But some damn good medicine is needed in a hurry. I hope to see steady improvement, but WJ's foot and possible Med RS may be the next big step. Lucca's reinstatement could also help.
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12-06-2007, 08:27 AM
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#167 | | Starter
Join Date: Aug 2006
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With the exception of the Oregon State game, ISU has gotten progressively worse with every game.
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12-06-2007, 09:51 AM
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#168 | | Starter
Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Los Ranchos de Albuquerque, New Mexico
Posts: 793
Credits: 776,478 Year: 1975 Degree: Animal Science NFL: Redskins NBA: Suns MLB: Nationals | Originally Posted by iowast8fan With the exception of the Oregon State game, ISU has gotten progressively worse with every game. I was at the OSU game, they are a worse team than Clones..................it should have never went to OT due to Clones poor play. Face it this team is bad.
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12-06-2007, 10:16 AM
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#169 | | All-Star
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 1,774
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Well, I held off last night and I am sure most of you are thankful. We are aweful and the team I saw last night didn't even seem to care...therefore I don't care and will not be posting on the worst men's basketball team in the last 25 years of Iowa State Basketball for the rest of the season. If they go on to win the big12 so be it. See you next year or on other topics.
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12-06-2007, 10:20 AM
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#170 | | Asst. Regional Manager
Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Ankeny
Posts: 6,594
Credits: 749 Year: 2007 Degree: Civil Engineering NFL: Vikings NBA: Timberwolves MLB: Twins |
I'm riding this rollercoaster into the end of the year because I believe in G-mac. When the tough gets going, this is the time we need to be the best fans we can be.
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Remember that stressed spelled backwards is desserts!
"The New England Patriots: As annoying as the Yankess, just with 23 fewer titles."
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12-06-2007, 10:22 AM
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#171 | | Starter
Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Cedar Rapids, Iowa
Posts: 865
Credits: 1,243,735 NFL: Steelers MLB: White Sox | Originally Posted by mjones34 I'm riding this rollercoaster into the end of the year because I believe in G-mac. When the tough gets going, this is the time we need to be the best fans we can be. I didn't get to see the Oregon State game...did you? I was wondering how bad is Oregon State if they lost to the ISU team that played last night?
This is NOT a flame...just wondering! I really really wish I could have watched last Friday's game! What happened since Friday to produce last night's effort?
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12-06-2007, 10:26 AM
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#172 | | All-Star
Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Superior, CO
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I think this team is anything but aweful....
| I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around the banks will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. Thomas Jefferson, 1802 |
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12-06-2007, 10:27 AM
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#173 | | 58008618
Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Saint Paul, MN
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We have certainly been "offensive" lately.
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12-06-2007, 10:33 AM
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#174 | | Facebook Knows All
Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: West Des Moines
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Credits: 1,456 Year: 2004 NFL: Bears MLB: Cubs | Originally Posted by Blandboy I'll give you the style of play...pretty boring basketball. If I wasn't biased toward the Clones, I'd rather watch a Johnny Orr loss than a McD win. That might be the dumbest thing I've read in a long time.
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12-06-2007, 10:34 AM
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#175 | | Asst. Regional Manager
Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Ankeny
Posts: 6,594
Credits: 749 Year: 2007 Degree: Civil Engineering NFL: Vikings NBA: Timberwolves MLB: Twins |
I agree we've had some terrible games, but you all act like it's the end of the world. We'll get some big wins this year, I promise you that. Nothing makes cyclone fans feel better than beating the Hawks, so let's go into Saturday ready to kick the crap out of them.
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"The New England Patriots: As annoying as the Yankess, just with 23 fewer titles."
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12-06-2007, 10:37 AM
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#176 | | All-Star
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 1,353
Credits: 1,716,326 NBA: Celtics MLB: Cardinals |
I agree with all the posters from page one to page tweleve
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12-06-2007, 10:47 AM
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#177 | | Pro
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 3,098
Credits: 1,703,233 Year: 1979 Degree: Ag Bus NFL: Vikings MLB: Twins |
We lost. The sun came up today. I was at the first game of the year. I told my son-in-law it is going to be a long year. Our guard play is pretty poor. It all starts with the guards. G-Mac should have them a bit better prepared to face the pressure. It will be even worse in Big XII play. Diante needs to focus more and be more aggressive. We have NO outside shooting. Period. That absolutely kills us. We don't have anyone who can create a shot, like Mike Taylor. And Taylor even with all his TO's created a lot of easy opportunities in the open court. We definitely miss him. That said. I would redshirt Wesley Johnson and let him heal. It will be ugly but long term it will be worth it. No reason to jump off buildings or fire coaches. Give it time.
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12-06-2007, 06:48 PM
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#178 | | All-Star
Join Date: Apr 2006
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I'm just pissed because Cybookie took my shirt on that game. 15,000 credits down the drain....
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12-06-2007, 07:30 PM
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#179 | | Hall-Of-Famer
Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Clive, Iowa
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I sick and tired of hearing how we played "pretty good" in the Oregon State game. Hello..?? Did you watch this game?? Were you drunk? It was two god awful teams playing possibly one of the worst college BBall games I have ever seen. I told my wife it set Basketball back about 100yrs after it was over. I am thankful that we won, but anyone who thought we played "pretty good" in that game is playing a couple cards short a full deck.
I will say this...we played better against OSU than Drake, but we were not even remotely close to playing a "pretty good" game that night. It was god awful as well.
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12-06-2007, 08:04 PM
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#180 | | Walk On
Join Date: Oct 2006
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I have a bad feeling about Saturday. If we lose that one at home it could get ugly!
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