MBB: Meltdown thread

mwitt · 12-05-2007, 09:00 PM

Originally Posted by JonDMiller

As bad as it feels, its not surprising.

It's not surprising that we're bad. It's not even surprising that we lost tonight. It is, however, surprising to lose to Drake by 35.

JonDMiller · 12-05-2007, 09:01 PM

Originally Posted by cyfanatic

This is the truth! Very good post! Can't let the obvious blind us just because we are fans! Doesn't make it easier to experience though...

No doubt...its tough to go through...and as fans we are emotionally involved. But that does not change the reality...as much hope and wishful thinking as we may have, sometimes it is what it is. I am not going to go Bobby Knight/Connie Chung here, but we all knew these things when the ball went up on opening night.

JonDMiller · 12-05-2007, 09:01 PM

Originally Posted by mwitt

It's not surprising that we're bad. It's not even surprising that we lost tonight. It is, however, surprising to lose to Drake by 35.

Yeah, I can understand that.

cyclonez7 · 12-05-2007, 09:02 PM

We tied the our least amount of points ever scored in a half since 1949.

isucyfan · 12-05-2007, 09:03 PM

Originally Posted by JonDMiller

No doubt...its tough to go through...and as fans we are emotionally involved. But that does not change the reality...as much hope and wishful thinking as we may have, sometimes it is what it is. I am not going to go Bobby Knight/Connie Chung here, but we all knew these things when the ball went up on opening night.

Jon, are you being nice to us Clones so in return we go easy on you after your Hawks get pummeled by UNI? (I bet it won't be quite the pummeling we just saw, though.)

StLouisClone · 12-05-2007, 09:03 PM

Originally Posted by cyclonez7

We tied the our least amount of points ever scored in a half since 1949.

I just got here. What was the final score?

nickborton · 12-05-2007, 09:04 PM

if we lost by 35 tonight AND played good fundamental basketball (rebounds,defense) and showed some heart i wouldn't mind as much..the fact we looked slow and like there was no effort was hard to watch

isucyfan · 12-05-2007, 09:04 PM

Originally Posted by StLouisClone

I just got here. What was the final score?

Tip for you...

Turn around, back slowly away from your computer.

clonefan98 · 12-05-2007, 09:04 PM

Originally Posted by cyclonez7

We tied the our least amount of points ever scored in a half since 1949.

Really? Wasn't the game vs Iowa in 1995 some crazy low score at half time? I don't remember what it was exactly, but I would have figured we had less than 20 that night before half.

ISUAlum2002 · 12-05-2007, 09:05 PM

Rebuilding or not, I don't think its too much to ask to win at least ONE out of the last six games against MVC opponents.

As I said in the now-defunct game thread, 6 straight losses to MVC teams should not EVER happen to a program like ISU in basketball. I don't care how good everyone says the MVC is.

I kind of chuckled when I saw the line on the game earlier today. Now I find that I chuckled for the opposite reason that I should have.

Rickybaby · 12-05-2007, 09:06 PM

Well, here is one postive that people can appreciate; all the aggravation was lost on the out of state fans, even those that purchased ESPN Full Court, because the TV coverage is so horrible that we couldn't even get the game. Can't watch ... hard to get aggravated.

You have to find something to like in the present situation, don't you?

tufnel · 12-05-2007, 09:06 PM

does anyone remember the posts from this summer about Drake's guards at the Cap City league? If I remember right, people were VERY impressed with Drake's guards in that league....and yet...OUR PETS HEADS ARE FALLING OFF AND I DIDN'T EVEN SEE IT COMIN'!!!

arganbright2 · 12-05-2007, 09:06 PM

I know recruiting rankings don't mean a whole lot when it comes down to playing basketball but we have 4 top 150 players on this years team (Clark, Brackins, Garrett, Cory Johnson) and the biggest diamond in the rough I have ever seen (W. Johnson). Despite bad guard play, ISU should be better coached with that much talent. I actually expected to lose the game tonight but not by 35.

mwitt · 12-05-2007, 09:06 PM

I think we can all agree that Drake was shooting lights out tonight, and they've probably had few (if any) team shootarounds in which they were hitting the three with that kind of consistency.

However, the most frustrating part was that this game was pretty much a televised shootaround. Our effot definitely appeared to be lacking. Our guard play was the worst it has been this year, and this isn't even close to the best guards we'll face this year.

We didn't get any loose balls, we had fouls on defense because our guys were getting beat, we weren't rebounding, we didn't get the ball into the post to take advantage of our size.

Jiri was the biggest guy on the floor, and did he even score other than that rebound dunk after we were down by 37?

I understand the apologists saying that the cupboard was bare, that we've had an unprecedented amount of player turnover, that we've had injuries, etc. This is all true. I'm still on the McDermott bandwagon.

With that said, we should never have to see something like that again. I don't mean the point differential because Kansas is going to be able to beat us by as many as they want. I mean the lack of effort, toughness, and discipline. We did nothing right.

bostinelosd · 12-05-2007, 09:08 PM

Originally Posted by mwitt

With that said, we should never have to see something like that again. I don't mean the point differential because Kansas is going to be able to beat us by as many as they want. I mean the lack of effort, toughness, and discipline. We did nothing right.

I dont think we will, unless its Kansas. But sometimes we sneak up on those Jayhawks.