Favre's streak vs Ripken's streak

clones26 · 12-10-2007, 12:25 PM

In baseball you play almost everyday, if not everyday for some home/road stands over the course of 6 months, while in football you play once a week for 4 months; both not including playoff time. Football is more physical, but that is why you get a week (most of the time) to heal, instead of hours. I as well find them both impressive, but agree that Ripkens amount of games is insane at 2000+.

drmwevr08 · 12-10-2007, 12:27 PM

I am biased... Completely biased - just for the record

However, it might be worth looking at how many others have comparable streaks. Ripken is more than three years past second place and far and away ahead of third while Farve doesnt even hold the record.

I really find it hard to compare the two sports in this regard but I will say that Farve needs to pass Marshall before he's even the most impressive in his sport. I'm not sure punters count :)

ISUFan22 · 12-10-2007, 12:30 PM

Originally Posted by cyclone#1

Clearly, FB is more of a contact sport than BB. However, you must have never played SS with a comment like this...getting "taken out" at 2B by a guy sliding into you with metal spikes is no "walk in the park".

Never said it was a walk in the park. But how many of those kinds of hits does he take vs. what Favre takes?

There's barely any contact in that sport unless you're a catcher and even then it's limited.

mwitt · 12-10-2007, 12:30 PM

Ripken. Baseball is every day. He never took a day off just to clear his head. It was constant and for seven or eight months out of the year.

I think a good way to look at this is which has a better chance to be broken? I think there is about a 0% chance that Cal's is broken. Peyton Manning has a shot at breaking Favre's.

brandnewsaves · 12-10-2007, 12:34 PM

I think Favre's is more impressive just becaus I do not find baseball as interesting...although Cal's streak will probably never be matched...

Steve · 12-10-2007, 12:34 PM

Originally Posted by cyclone#1

Clearly, FB is more of a contact sport than BB. However, you must have never played SS with a comment like this...getting "taken out" at 2B by a guy sliding into you with metal spikes is no "walk in the park".

This is one of the main reasons I'll go with Ripkin.

Another is that he was HBP 66 times in his career with only a simple plastic helmut for protection as opposed to full pads protecting Farve on his hits. Many of these HBP had to be on the hand, wrist, elbow, or ribs with a 90+ mph pitch. It's one thing to shake it off and stay in the game. It's the next day that hurts, and Ripkin was right back out there as opposed to having 6 days to recover.

Yes, Farve took some big time hits. Keep in mind that he's had some help along the way. This year is certainly a exception, but he's had some decent RB's where all he does is take a snap & hand off. He's also played mainly in a west coast system that utilizes a number of short passes and hot reads to minimize the blitze. I'd say that the QB position is less prone to missing a game than just about any other on the field.

ISUFan22 · 12-10-2007, 12:38 PM

Originally Posted by Steve

I'd say that the QB position is less prone to missing a game than just about any other on the field.

Really?

Thursday night, how many QBs went down in that game? 2.

There are a slew of teams playing a back-up QB due to injury right now and/or at some time during the season.

Look at all the new rules protecting the quarterback...they exist for a reason (albeit sometimes extreme). Brett played most of his years without these and is still standing.

mwitt · 12-10-2007, 12:40 PM

One thing to look at is how many NFL players will play in all 16 games this year. Then look at how many baseball players played in 162 games last year.

I'm willing to bet there's a lot more football players that do it.

cycloneworld · 12-10-2007, 12:44 PM

I'd say Ripken but not by much.

I honestly think that streak will NEVER be broken.

Peyton Manning's streak is at 158 so I think its possible that Manning will have a Favre-like streak as well.

drmwevr08 · 12-10-2007, 12:44 PM

Originally Posted by ISUFan22

Really?

Thursday night, how many QBs went down in that game? 2.

There are a slew of teams playing a back-up QB due to injury right now and/or at some time during the season.

Look at all the new rules protecting the quarterback...they exist for a reason (albeit sometimes extreme). Brett played most of his years without these and is still standing.

I think youd have to go back to years before Favre to find a time where they were not making some concerted effort to protect the QB. The rules might have been different and not as strict but they were there.

mwitt · 12-10-2007, 12:45 PM

Originally Posted by ISUFan22

Thursday night, how many QBs went down in that game? 2.

You can't base an argument on such a small sample size. If that's the case, then look at every other game from this weekend. How many went down? That's a much bigger sample size (although still way too small), but dwarfs the Thursday night game example.

I'd say the QB is less likely to get hurt than just about any other position on a football field.

ISUFan22 · 12-10-2007, 12:46 PM

I was giving one example...just one of many...

Steve · 12-10-2007, 12:48 PM

Originally Posted by ISUFan22

Really?

Thursday night, how many QBs went down in that game? 2.

There are a slew of teams playing a back-up QB due to injury right now and/or at some time during the season.

Look at all the new rules protecting the quarterback...they exist for a reason (albeit sometimes extreme). Brett played most of his years without these and is still standing.

QB's are always the focal point and get the press. When you look at the injury reports, you will see:

far more DB's missing for sprained ankles that a QB could play with.

WR's out with hammy pulls that QB's seldom even get, but could play with. It's hard to get a WR to even go over the middle, let alone survive the hits.

RB's - lets not even go there

OL & DL - knees, shoulders, knees, shoulders, knees, shoulders, etc

LB's - usually on the giving or receiving end of what the RB's do plus take on 300 lb OL

cyclonenum1 · 12-10-2007, 12:48 PM

Originally Posted by drmwevr08

I am biased... Completely biased - just for the record

However, it might be worth looking at how many others have comparable streaks. Ripken is more than three years past second place and far and away ahead of third while Farve doesnt even hold the record.

I really find it hard to compare the two sports in this regard but I will say that Farve needs to pass Marshall before he's even the most impressive in his sport. I'm not sure punters count :)

Excellent point...Favre doesn't even hold the record in the NFL. What is interesting is that a guy that actually played a position where he had contact every down holds the NFL record (DL Jim Marshall). Although Favre does get hit...as a QB it is not every play...in fact, far from it.

mwitt · 12-10-2007, 12:49 PM

Originally Posted by ISUFan22

I was giving one example...just one of many...

You can do that in any sport.

If anyone does have the time or know where you could find how many MLB players played in 162 games this year and compare it to how many NFL players played in 16, I think that'd be very interesting to see.