Ripping CDs now NOT illegal???

Flag Guy · 12-11-2007, 01:05 PM

RIAA: Those CD rips of yours are still "unauthorized"

This is complete crap - you've paid for the song you should be able to choose the media device on which you listen to it on. Not to mention back up the data...

File sharing is one thing, but to not even be allowed to put the songs on your computer or MP3 player? They can take their CD's and shove them

When asked by the RIAA's lead counsel whether it was wrong for consumers to make copies of CDs they have purchased, Jennifer Pariser replied in the negative. "When an individual makes a copy of a song for himself, I suppose we can say he stole a song," said Pariser. Making "a copy" of a song you own is just "a nice way of saying 'steals just one copy'," according to Pariser

brianhos · 12-11-2007, 01:08 PM

Unfortunately the government says otherwise, it is called "fair use." If this is ever to change, all consumers must do one thing, not buy any more CD's that are produced by RIAA artists.

Cyclone62 · 12-11-2007, 01:08 PM

Is playing the cd loud enough for people to hear illegal too?

EggMcClone · 12-11-2007, 01:09 PM

"When an individual makes a copy of a song for himself, I suppose we can say he stole a song," said Pariser. Making "a copy" of a song you own is just "a nice way of saying 'steals just one copy'," according to Pariser

Error. Does not compute.

cloneu · 12-11-2007, 01:10 PM

Originally Posted by Cyclone62

Is playing the cd loud enough for people to hear illegal too?

Don't let the music people hear about this. They would probably consider this illegally sharing your music with others and sue you.

Flag Guy · 12-11-2007, 01:11 PM

At this rate, it was probally illegal for people to bring songs to my computer for me to blare down the hallway during "Rowdy hour" when I lived in the dorms

a) They're loaning me their music
b) I'm playing it for others

Cyclone62 · 12-11-2007, 01:13 PM

Originally Posted by cloneu

Don't let the music people hear about this. They would probably consider this illegally sharing your musice with others and sue you.

I am technically "broadcasting" the music for many people to potentially listen to... F 'em, I'm going to do it anyway.

Flag Guy · 12-11-2007, 01:17 PM

Originally Posted by brianhos

Unfortunately the government says otherwise, it is called "fair use." If this is ever to change, all consumers must do one thing, not buy any more CD's that are produced by RIAA artists.

**** like this is part of why I listen to the radio.

I tried legally downloading music for a while, but I ran into problems with anti-piracy encryptions and quit using that service. There are a lot of songs I'd pay for but I refuse to because I can't listen to them on my MP3 player or because everytime my hard drive gets wiped I have to call and get them to re-issue my liscense because I've had to wipe my hard drive (and therefore transfer liscences) more times than I was allowed by the initial liscense.

It's ironical really - in an attempt to stem illegal downloading (which they claim loses them money) they are losing money by driving off ligitimate business

bostinelosd · 12-11-2007, 02:15 PM

I buy my music from pawn shops and half.com for dirt cheap used prices. Then I make them into mp3's for use on my home network. i refuse to buy cds new. I refuse to buy download music. Its too expensive and a pain with the antipiracy crap.

travman23 · 12-11-2007, 02:35 PM

RIAA can shove it where the sun don't shine. They make most the money off the CDs not the artists so I can care less. I read the breakdown of what the artist actually gets and for every $1 it's like 3 cents or something after the RIAA, the label, and distributors all take their cuts.

Anyone have a link or something to the actual breakdowns? This is why I couldn't care less what they say becuase it's really not hurting the artist when people do illegally acquire music, it's mostly hurting everyone else that has their hand in the cookie jar.

redrocker · 12-11-2007, 02:47 PM

This one of the reasons that I listen to talk radio kxno!

Todd · 12-11-2007, 02:51 PM

the Phil Spector defense fund gets the majority.....I've bought 1 CD in the last 10 years...couldn't find it anywhere else. I have bought "Free for All" at least 7 times in my life, if I can find a digital version for free, I'm taking it!

Stumpy · 12-11-2007, 02:53 PM

Originally Posted by travman23

RIAA can shove it where the sun don't shine. They make most the money off the CDs not the artists so I can care less. I read the breakdown of what the artist actually gets and for every $1 it's like 3 cents or something after the RIAA, the label, and distributors all take their cuts.

Anyone have a link or something to the actual breakdowns?

Wal-Mart Wants $10 CDs : Rolling Stone

This Rolling Stone story is based around the debate of Wal-Mart selling $10 CDs. At the very bottom is a pricing breakdown of where the money goes from a $15.99 CD sale, according to the Almighty Institute of Music Retail.

$0.17 Musicians' unions
$0.80 Packaging/manufacturing
$0.82 Publishing royalties
$0.80 Retail profit
$0.90 Distribution
$1.60 Artists' royalties
$1.70 Label profit
$2.40 Marketing/promotion
$2.91 Label overhead
$3.89 Retail overhead

phyteguru · 12-11-2007, 03:22 PM

I went to prison after being raided by the feds for "Conspiracy to commit copyright infringement." - Yep, went to prison for music piracy. WTF!

I do rip CDs for my own use at home and keep them on my computer, but no longer share music with anyone else. It's a long story but I have it written here.

prisonreallysucks.blogspot.com

-Bruce
prisonsucks@gmail.com
-AIM/AOL: phyteguru

Cyclone62 · 12-11-2007, 03:22 PM

I generally only buy used CD's anymore at Disc-Go-Round, CD's +, Hastings, etc. Stores of that nature. If I'm supporting an artist, I go to their shows where they make their money, and not the recording industry. If the artist is selling the cd at their shows (underground bands), there's usually not many other places to get them.