Every win and every loss is shared by the coaces and players.
Fact remains...if we were on par with the rest of the Big 12 with facilities and budget...we could land some better recruits.
There is a reason that DM's coaching record at ISU stands at 54-79. Keep in mind that after 12 years his overall winning percentage is below the historic winning percentage at ISU of 40% So, he is underperforming even by the historically low ISU standard. There was another thread on this board that said they wanted DM to prove them wrong. That is where I have been for years now. After 12 years is it too much to expect to take down one of the elephants once and a while? Is it too much to ask for us to beat UCONN and Baylor at home? At some point is it too much to ask for DM to be accountable for a 54-79 record instead of a bunch of excuses about why it CAN'T be done at ISU?
I'm always struck by the fact that whenever someone whispers the least bit of criticism about DM, they are considered anti-ISU. Whenever the other side defends DM and rips on ISU's facilities, budget, fans, tradition, etc. they are considered pro-ISU. It makes no sense to me at all.
As stated many, many, many times - my issues with the "hang D-Mac" group is there is often no mention of the shortcomings of the players.
Isn't this a football team? The team consists of everyone from the head coach all the way down to the back-up kicker - and everyone in between.
Football games are won and lost as a team. Parker is not the single reason we lost yesterday. Neither is Dan McCarney.
Same with Baylor last year. Coleman did not single-handedly lose the game for us. Neither did D-Mac. But both contributed to it.
There may be a million contributing factors as to why DM's record is 54-79, but ultimately it is the wins and losses that matter. As he has often said himself, "There is a reason they keep score". He is a good guy. His players graduate. His discipline has been way above average. But he simply has not won enough to be immune from criticism. I love JP, but I couldn't disagree more with him when he demands that ISU fans shut up in the face of mediocrity year after year.
JP wants to take ISU to the "next level". He correctly fired WM for not being able to do that in BB. If, at the end of this season ISU stands at 6-6 or worse can JP or anyone else truly make the argument that DM is the man to lead ISU to the "next level"?
To all of the fire Mac crowd: Let's say you get your wish and Mac leaves one way or another. How appealing of a job would it be with sub-standard facilities and a lower budget than the rest of the conference? I highly doubt that good coaches would be lining up outside of the Jacobsen building to get an interview. Personally, I like Mac, don't agree with him all of the time, but he has been a good coach. The facilities upgrade should be a different subject, not a referendum on Mac.
I personally think Mac has done a good job at ISU, but I also understand the frustrations of the last couple of years. However, lets give the man his due. He took quite possibly the worst D1 program and had them ranked in the top 10 in 2002. I know that season took a turn for the worst, but he did not get there by luck. It was from coaching, recruiting and hard work. He has followed that up with back to back opportunities to get to the Big 12 Championship (along with a Big 12 COY). Can you question some of his coaching abilities....absolutely. But the expectations we all have for this program are based on Mac's past success. I think is is pretty sad that the man gets more credit nationally than he gets locally. I for one think this program would take a huge step backward if JP were to fire Mac.
appreciate the coaches? i think we appreciate the coaches more then him...all he has done is stir up argruments with the build board also he fired coach that was one of the best recruiters in the country(wayne morgan) and hired a 2a coach. i think polLARD needs to go
for the record, I'm part of the Mac sucks crowd. My advice to Mac, quit pacing and start coaching.