I get what K is saying, that there is a general philosophy that seems to exist in Iowa State fans. We want the Johnny Orr's of the world as coaches because they seem nice. We accept the flaws of the coaches, the idea that they just can't get over the hump.
Johnny couldn't win on the road, but went to every small town in Iowa for every small town thing, and told great stories about his players.
Jim Walden couldn't win, but was a hoot at Cyclone Club gatherings.
DMac couldn't get it done, but his personality got him over with the fans.
Now we have JP in charge, and he expects results. I find it ironic that the same people blasting away for getting Mac to step down, supported Wayne's firing. Before we applauded the fact that he was no nonsense, now we are calling him trigger happy (not everyone, but I have read it on this site).
I guess what I am trying to say, is that what K was calling out was the perception that causes Hawk fans to call us "little brother"
Other schools act, we react, EIU will make KF shake up his staff for not being successful enough, when they are going to a bowl, and have 3 top ten finishes this decade. Two bad years are NOT acceptable. We were happy with Shreveport, see the difference.
Now I disagree about BF, I believe that he is a good coach, and will have greater successes than even in the past. However, what K seems to be saying is that one elite 8 appearance nearly a decade ago, and 3-4 sweet 16 appearances aren't good enough when you have other programs in the conference winning national championships.
We need to have expectations for success concerning our athletic programs.
Either way, kberyldial's posts on here were INCREDIBLY inappropriate, whether people agree with him or not. This was a thread to congratulate Fennely on his 400th win. kberydial, since you had something completely different to say, you should have started a new thread where debate could have taken place appropriately.
Congrats BF on #400. You have brought stability, consistency, winning, fun and enjoyment to ISU Sports in the form of Women's Basketball. You've more than met expectations for this ISU fan. Your teams are a blast to watch, they always give great effort, have great attitudes, play with passion and are just real good young ladys. Continued Success !!
Way to go coach!