If Jim Harbaugh...?

**cycloneryan** · 11-17-2006, 04:28 PM

Who cares how long he stays as long as he has some success and puts us on the right track.

**cstrunk** · 11-17-2006, 04:36 PM

Originally Posted by ISUCY11

I really wouldnt mind if Harbaugh left after 4 or 5 years, because that would mean we would have had success in that time. If he turns us into a prominant player in the Big XII, then left for a bigger program (say Michigan) I really wouldn't mind. Because he would leave ISU in good shape, and many more coaches would want to come here. Why not hire him, let him use us a stepping stone, but more importantly, use HIM as a stepping stone as well.

Exactly. If Jim Harbaugh comes in here, goes 4-8, 6-6, 8-4, 10-2, 10-2 and then leaves, I would be disappointed (but not heartbroken), but very happy because of what he has been able to do for himself and also for ISU! It won't be hard to find another quality coach to come here after someone shows the nation it can be done at ISU.

If someone is scared of a coach leaving ISU because he does well, then that person is scared of having success.

**Nedrick** · 11-17-2006, 04:51 PM

These are all great points about Harbaugh. Assuming he exceeds expectations and is very successful, that means he's done a great job of recruiting too. And if that's the case, it will be much easier to attract the next coach if he knows he's coming into a "full cupboard" situation...

**rkthompson** · 11-17-2006, 04:53 PM

When was the last time an Iowa State Head Football Coach left for a bigger program? I can't think of any maybe Johnnie Majors? Even in Basketball we have had 1 in the last 20 years. This is not something that keeps me up at night.

**brentskicy** · 11-17-2006, 06:03 PM

fine, fine, you guys win

**Psyclone Brian** · 11-17-2006, 06:20 PM

Originally Posted by ISUFan22

And if the moon crashes into the earth, we'll all die.

Tons of if's and but's - sometimes it's nice to live in the moment.

Couldn't have said it better myself. Might also make a mental note that "if" Harbaugh signs, it's going to be for a minimum of 5 or 6 years in my opinion, and rest assured after a few winning seasons & successful bowl games, ol' JP will probably give him a new contract that may run into the next decade. So if he decides to jump ship after that, or somebody's willing to put up the "Benjamin'$" to take him away from us, then I'd say he served his stay. And our financial burden may be no more. And with that surplus of cash, we begin the process all over again. (Funny how things work, huh?)

Somebody in an earlier post made it sound like he'd be year to year with us, and then 'bolt' for the NFL whenever.

**jdoggivjc** · 11-17-2006, 06:32 PM

Originally Posted by gmckern

I think most Clone Fans would want to be put in the postition of everyone wanting their coach because they were sucessful! Do you remember in the last few years of the Tim Floyd era. Rumors were flying with the Bulls, and that comes because of success, which is a good problem to have!!

I seem to remember we had MORE success after floyd left for the NBA than we did WHILE we had him.

**bigred** · 11-17-2006, 06:37 PM

Am I missing something? Is there something in Jim Harbaugh's bio that I have not heard? Being a former pro quarterback is good as his being a winning coach at a lower level non scholarship school. But there is nothing to indicate how great a recuriter he will be or sucessful coaching a to level job. Would would think Kragthorpe and Bo Pelini would have better qualifications.

**brentskicy** · 11-17-2006, 07:23 PM

eeeeeeee

**darts180** · 11-17-2006, 09:09 PM

Originally Posted by jtdoyle1

Maybe if we can get a coach that only achieves mediocre results he will stick around forever.

Or 12 years

**darts180** · 11-17-2006, 09:14 PM

Originally Posted by rkthompson

When was the last time an Iowa State Head Football Coach left for a bigger program? I can't think of any maybe Johnnie Majors? Even in Basketball we have had 1 in the last 20 years. This is not something that keeps me up at night.

Uhhhhhhhh..........Ever hear of Earle Bruce??????

**Rudy Katoot** · 11-18-2006, 06:30 AM

Brent has a legitimate point. Johnny Majors in a short time at ISU was wanted by many major programs. His trips for interviews became very disruptive. But when Johnny finally did leave, the team was in left in good condition. I believe the positives out weight the negatives.

**CLONE2THEBONE** · 11-18-2006, 12:58 PM

Originally Posted by ISUFan22

I think we should hire a coach before we worry about how long he'll stay.

That's a dumb, dumb comment. Of course we should worry about how long a coach would stay if hired. Do you want to hire a coach who is going to leave at the 1st sign of success?

Ahhh, let's just hire him first and then worry about it later.

Or maybe you're saying why speculate about it until he's hired. Ooops, I thought this was a message board. I didn't know this type of speculation wasn't allowed.

**ISUCY11** · 11-18-2006, 01:05 PM

Step 1: Hire a rising star of a coach (Floyd : Harbaugh)
Step 2: Win some serious games
Step 3: Coach leaves for bigger and better things
Step 4: Hire and even better coach (Eustachy : ?)
Step 5: Better coach leaves (for some reason or another...)
Step 6: Don't hire Wayne Morgan.