Harbaugh vs. Norvell

[seneca4MVP]

Harbaugh excites people cuz he is Jim Harbaugh. Playing starting QB in the league and now being a HC of a great D1A non scholarship excites people. Sure it is 1AA non scholarship but at least he is head coach and calls the flippin plays. He will bring an excited brand of football to the clones while briging in some top notched talent just due to his name alone

[BigBake]

How does a 15 year NFL All-Pro QB, an up-and-coming coach who coached his current team to 1 loss in the last 2 season coming to Ames, IA sell me on excitement? If you can't get excited about that, what will it take? Bill Parcells?

You talk about experience...at least JH has head coaching experience, unlike JN.

Yes, Bill Parcells would generate excitement.

Sorry, I don't think JH is qualified to take over for our school. I don't care how anyone spins it but I'm not willing to gamble our program on him. He's coached at a D I-AA.

I'm not saying Norvell HAS to be hired. Only what the thread was about....JH vs Norvell. Norvell has a better resume hands down.

[cycloneworld]

Yes, Bill Parcells would generate excitement.

Sorry, I don't think JH is qualified to take over for our school. I don't care how anyone spins it but I'm not willing to gamble our program on him. He's coached at a D I-AA.

I'm not saying Norvell HAS to be hired. Only what the thread was about....JH vs Norvell. Norvell has a better resume hands down.

I guess we will just have to agree to disagree.

[BigBake]

I guess we will just have to agree to disagree.

True, and I think we could agree that no candidate (at least one offered by the media) has been met with overwhelming love by the fan base.

[seneca4MVP]

Does anyone besides me think that its wierd that this guy has such an awesome resume and hasn't been hired as a head coach yet? There must be something to it. Oh yeah he is no good

[cycloneworld]

True, and I think we could agree that no candidate (at least one offered by the media) has been met with overwhelming love by the fan base.

Yeah, that's true. I'm a pretty big Harbaugh guy, I just think there is unlimited potential with him. But I also know that potential doesn't amount to success.

I don't think there could be one guy everyone would be happy with...unless it was someone huge.

Are we really going to see an announcement next week? I kinda want this to be over.

[Dave19642006]

Jim Harbaugh begins his third year as the University of San Diego head football coach and quarterbacks coach. [B][B][B]Last year he guided the Toreros to a program-best 11-1 overall record, the PFL North Division title, the outright PFL Championship, and to the No. 1 ranking for all I-AA Mid-Major programs.The Toreros received the Sports Network Cup for being the No. 1 ranked team in the final poll. Additionally, Harbaugh was the PFL North Division Coach of the Year and a nominee for the I-AA Eddie Robinson Coach of the Year. Under his direction the Toreros enter the 2006 campaign having won 16 of their last 17 games.

In 2004, his first year, he directed the Toreros to an overall mark of 7-4, including 5 straight wins to end the season. USD finished 3-1 in the Pioneer Football League North Division, good for a 2nd place finish. Five of his players were recognized as All-America; twelve were recognized as All-PFL; eight players were selected to the PFL All-Academic Team; and quarterback Todd Mortensen, the PFL co-Offensive Player of the Year, signed a free agent contract with the Detroit Lions.

Harbaugh, a former NFL quarterback who played 15 seasons in the league, played locally with the Chargers between 1999-2000. The 41-year-old Harbaugh, who resides in nearby Coronado, played in 177 league games with 140 starts since originally entering the NFL as a first round pick by the Chicago Bears in 1987. For his career, he completed 2,305 of 3,918 passes for 26,288 yards with 129 touchdowns.

Harbaugh played seven seasons for the Bears and passed for a career-high 3,121 yards for Chicago in 1991. He played for the Indianapolis Colts from 1994-97 and in 1995, achieved career highs in completion percentage (63.7) and touchdown passes (17). While with the Colts he led the team to the AFC Championship game; was voted to the Pro Bowl; was named the 1995 Comeback Player of the Year and the AFC Player of the Year; and was runner-up in the NFL MVP voting. Harbaugh played for Baltimore in 1998, and following his two-year stint with the Chargers closed out his NFL career with Carolina in 2001.

In January, 2005, Jim was inducted into the Indianapolis Colts Ring of Honor. Harbaugh, one of the most successful and popular players in the club's 21-year Indianapolis era, played from 1994-98 with the Colts. He was inducted at halftime of the Colts-Denver Wild Card playoff game. Jim started for the majority of his Colts career, completing 746 of 1,230 passes for 8,705 yards and 49 touchdowns. He won the NFL passer rating title in 1995 at 100.7. Harbaugh joins the late Robert Irsay, Bill Brooks, Ted Marchibroda and Chris Hinton in the Colts Ring of Honor.

Harbaugh was a four-year letterman at the University of Michigan and finished his college career in the top five in passing attempts, completions, completion percentage, passing yards and touchdown passes. Playing for Bo Schembechler, he was a three-year starter and led the Wolverines to appearances in the Fiesta, Holiday, and Rose Bowl games. As a senior in 1986 he guided Michigan to a No. 2 national ranking while earning Big Ten Player of the Year honors and finishing third in the Heisman balloting.

Over his final eight seasons in the NFL (1994-2001), Jim was an NCAA-certified unpaid assistant coach under his father, Jack, at Western Kentucky University. Serving as an offensive consultant, he scouted and recruited high school student-athletes throughout several states including Florida, Indiana and Illinois. He was involved in recruiting 17 players on WKU's 2002 I-AA National Championship team. His dad was a football coach for 41 years, including 14-years as Head Coach at Western Kentucky. His brother, John, is currently Special Teams Coordinator with the Philadelphia Eagles; and his brother-in-law, Tom Crean, is Head Basketball Coach of Marquette University.

Harbaugh has been very active in Community Service ventures. He has been actively involved with the Harbaugh Hill Foundation, the James Whitcomb Riley Hospital for Children (Indiana University), Western Kentucky University, the Jim Harbaugh Foundation, the Uhlich's Children's Home and the Children's Miracle Network.

[MrApathy]

Jake Harbaugh, Jim's father coached with Bo Schembechler at Michigan for 6 years.Jim Harbaugh as a Kid put his feet up on Bo's desk Jim was 10 to 16 during that. Jim would later play QB under Bo Schembechler at Michigan.

Bo Schembechler has the most wins in all of Michigans history.
http://bentley.umich.edu/athdept/foo...es/coaches.htm
Glen (Bo) Schembechler 1969-1989 194 48 5 .802 143 24 3 .856 13

thats the kind of environment Jim had when growing up one of the best Big10 coaches at a PowerHouse in the Big10 and his father an assistant and later a Headcoach at another University.

while JIm is coaching Div 1-AA its a non scholarship team with jack squat for a budget. he has taken that team to new heights and worked his *** off doing it. he Left his coaching position at the Oakland Raiders to do it.
he could have wound up Coaching the Raiders if he had stayed.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/colle...gh-cover_x.htm

"At times, it's hard to practice against him because he's relentless for the offense to win," says Dave Adolph, the Toreros' assistant head coach/defensive coordinator, who coached for 21 years in the NFL before joining Harbaugh's staff last season.
Or as in winter conditioning sessions, when Harbaugh attacks the dirt hills of Tecolote Canyon, racing his team from the bottom to the top, time and time again.
"He runs until he vomits," says Tim Drevno, the Toreros' offensive coordinator. "He will show the kids how to do it, and he will not be beaten."
And as in the weight room, where Harbaugh challenges his players lift for lift, pushing himself so far last spring that he blew out a quadriceps muscle.
"He's always in a very intense mode," says Josh Johnson, the Toreros' sophomore quarterback. "He treats every moment like it's a game situation."

how many Div1 coaches run till they vomit and match lift for lift in the weight room till they blow a muscle.

its odd that Oakland Raiders happened to go to the SuperBowl when Jim Harbaugh was an assistant coach in 2002. raiders falling short previous years.

[URBCLONE]

Thanks, Dave and Apathy. I read this information on a couple of earlier posts and it is a big part of what has sold me on Jim Harbaugh.

[JR]

Here is a suggestion: Ask former players "off the record" their thougts on Norvell when he was here at ISU. He would be an absolute terrible hire.

Fake emotion and arrogance...bad combo

[CyinCo]

I know you wanted intelligent factual debate, but I gotta throw this out there because I think it represents how a majority of fans feel:

Norvell will suck the remaining life out of this program. And possibly win.
Harbaugh will breathe new life into this program. And possibly win.

You pick.

[JokersWild]

Don't people think that playing QB in the NFL for 15 years gives you some idea of X's & O's/coaching? I'm just saying, that playing for 15 years has to give you some advantage, especially if you're the one training your qb's to look at defenses out there and to make the right calls if necessary. I would think a QB for 15 years would know how to read defenses AND know what defenses work good. I guess I just consider 15 years at that position as coaching experience.

[URBCLONE]

Norvell will suck the remaining life out of this program. And possibly win.
Harbaugh will breathe new life into this program. And possibly win.

You pick.

Great summation. Totally agree.

[BigBake]

Don't people think that playing QB in the NFL for 15 years gives you some idea of X's & O's/coaching? I'm just saying, that playing for 15 years has to give you some advantage, especially if you're the one training your qb's to look at defenses out there and to make the right calls if necessary. I would think a QB for 15 years would know how to read defenses AND know what defenses work good. I guess I just consider 15 years at that position as coaching experience.

True...but he's done nothing to prove he can coach at this level. That's my biggest problem with him.

[JokersWild]

Does Norvell have enough charisma/leadership to be a head coach for team like ours that actually needs someone like that? I suppose that's for JP to determine.