It takes longer for some to accept the truth.
Happy to see that JP has expectations.
Hopefully the greater ISU fan base will follow suite.
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It takes longer for some to accept the truth.
Happy to see that JP has expectations.
Hopefully the greater ISU fan base will follow suite.
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Originally Posted by darts180
I really am disappointed that you missed the sarcasm in my post relating to McCarney's "Memphis Airport" comments!
The reality is that no one is beating his door down to offer him a job and he is heading to Mobile AL because there are a ton of coaches (especially NFL coaches) in town for the Senior Bowl and he is going to lobby for a job with anyone that will listen to him.
I especially like how he tries to "martyr" himself by volunteering that he is more concerned with finding his assistants jobs than he is in finding himself a job.
After drinking the "kool-aid" of McCarney self-promotion the effects are slowly beginning to wear off!Quote:
Originally Posted by Drive4cy
Actually darts and cyclone1 the main reason Mac was going to Mobile was because he was trying to Scott Stephenson into the game and also the TB buccaneers coaching staff invited him there (he is real good friends with the TB D coord). And yes I do believe he is concentrating on finding jobs for his assistants. You can call me nieve or full on Kool Aid but coach Mac has always been a 100% straight shooter with me so I believe him. I know how loyal of a guy he is to those people who were loyal to him.
Kind of blew me away that he was able to spot me in an airport and flag me down to chat. After all I was nothing special just a walk-on linebacker from a small eastern Iowa town who played mainly on special teams.
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Originally Posted by isufbcurt
Ummmmmmm.......OK:rolleyes5cz:. Well let's just hope that he can do better for his assistants than he has done for himself in this "job search."
My theory from the start was that Pollard gave Mac an ultimatum that some assistants had to go, and that Mac refused to do that and resigned rather than do that. It seems to fit all the statements and emotion shown from both Pollard and Mac through the whole thing. I think your comments make a lot of sense in that context.Quote:
Originally Posted by isufbcurt
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Originally Posted by isufbcurt
First, isufbcurt - thanks for walking on at ISU and putting in all the hard work it takes to be a Cyclone athlete. I hope you enjoyed it. It's good to see you're now a devoted Cyclone fan and you've maintained a great relationship with your former head coach. It must have felt good to have Dan care enough about you - even though you were not one of the "prized" scholarship guys - and pick you out of a crowd to say hello.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cyclonepride
Second - thanks for passing the info Dan shared with you.
And finally, I agree with you cyclonepride. I have a couple sources that have informed me of the same thing. Dan was very loyal. And - he was loyal to a fault. That loyalty is one of the reasons he had struggles during his tenure in Ames and ultimately seems to have led to him stepping down.
OK if we are going to buy the "Saint Mac was loyal to a fault" argument, then why did he fire two coaches in 2003 (for performance), to save his own ***? If he was willing to do that previously, what would be the problem with firing the underperforming coaches this season?
I can understand friendships and all that, but he had in the past let coaches go, so this argument just doesn't hold a lot of water with me. It goes back to expectations. Gene Smith wanted a bowl game to get him the hell out of Ames, and Mac delivered in 2000 (of course they got killed by the good teams on the schedule, but it was a great time to be a Cyclone fan). But Gene knew that when a good offer came along, he was gone.
Now JP will be here for a while, and he wants good programs, that compete with the best teams in the conference. After 11 years of limiting expectations to make it seem like he was rolling, he had to come through, and he couldn't. That is why he is gone. Barney Cotton, and John Skladaney may be Mac's best friends, but coaching is a tough business, and these guys knew what they were getting into when they got into it. If they were his friends then they should understand why changes had to be made.
Finally, this loyalty ******** argument should absolutely INFURIATE EVERY CYCLONE FAN, because, if there is any truth to it (which I doubt) then he put a personal agenda ahead of job performance. For the millions of dollars he was paid, and the loyalty from fanbase that he had, he did a disservice to the job.
Walk on? BFD, honestly.
Just exactly how much sacrifice is involved to be “loyal” when you are getting paid on average over a half a million dollars - while consistently UNDERPERFORMING relative to your peers. ----- Peers that have been given less than a fourth the amount of time than you have been given in order to be successful.
I could care less about “loyalty” . Talk about an over used and useless BUZZ WORD. The only loyalty involved with NCAA sports these days are from those who have NO OTHER OPTIONS. Look around and then tell us all about loyalty.
In the end Mac did not get it done. Period. He was given way more latitude and support to succeed than any other major college coach in the history of the NCAA and FAILED.
Not only failed but was not even close to putting a consistant winning performing product on the feild year after year. Not to mention the lack of game day situational play calling.
One year out of 12. WOW - Amazing results......"but at least he was loyal". (roll eyes)
Put your emotions aside and be objective. The numbers and lack of results speak loudly and clearly.
Mac spin - Mac lost his job because he was too loyal to his assistants and wouldn't sacrifice them when demanded to do so by Pollard.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoShow97
McCarney reality - There is absolutely no evidence that Pollard pushed McCarney to fire assistants. McCarney had no trouble firing assistants previously to save his own hide. And guess who hired all of these wonderful assistants being discussed...McCarney!
Mac spin - We did Mac wrong...he was so loyal to ISU.
McCarney reality - McCarney was loyal out of necessity...he had no other options and was certainly not a hot coaching commodity.
We all need to remember that college athletics is a business. A tough business at that. You are foolish to think that ADs and Coaches will stay forever if opportunities they perceive as better for their careers and their families are presented to them. The typical coach is at one stop for 5-10 years. You don't hear as much about AD movement but it is probably the same type of average tenure.
A good example of the business aspect of college athletics just occurred at Army this week. Bobby Ross resigns and endorses one of his assistants, Stan Brock, as his replacement. A day or two later, Stan Brock tells his OC (Kevin Ross...Bobby's son) that he is not being retained.
Frankly, I was concerned when we hired Pollard from Wisconsin that we might have hired someone that was going to be a "McCarney puppet" and may have a tough time pulling the plug on the McCarney era. Fortunately, it appears that Pollard understands this is a business...he has taken the appropriate measures to put ISU athletics in the best position possible to have success. He understands that FB is the main driver of revenue and we must have success in FB to have a strong athletic department!