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01-21-2007, 11:33 PM
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#31 | | Walk On
Join Date: Nov 2006
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Credits: 211,250 | Originally Posted by Blandboy What's ANF got to do with farmers? It's short for Always Need Finances!
hey i'll give props to coach fry on that one. i thought that was pretty cool too and i am an isu alumni. that was at a time where there was a lot of problems in the farm economy. and the always need finances is a crap thing to say dude. i'll give you the benefit of the doubt and say you were just cracking a joke, but i found it very disrespectful thing to post about the people that are the backbone of iowa, hawkeye or cyclone.
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01-21-2007, 11:52 PM
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#32 | | Bench Warmer
Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: motorhome/racetrack/hotel/home/
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Credits: 321,867 | Originally Posted by dsouth hey i'll give props to coach fry on that one. i thought that was pretty cool too and i am an isu alumni. that was at a time where there was a lot of problems in the farm economy. and the always need finances is a crap thing to say dude. i'll give you the benefit of the doubt and say you were just cracking a joke, but i found it very disrespectful thing to post about the people that are the backbone of iowa, hawkeye or cyclone. I don't think it is a slight. The facts are that farming is very capital intensive and that finances play a big role. Private and Gov support. To say other wise is just chosing to ignor the facts. Look at the recent farm bill lately? Biggest form of Gov assistance there is of any Gov. program.
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01-21-2007, 11:56 PM
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#33 | | Walk On
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Credits: 211,250 | Originally Posted by jimmycy I've got to disagree. Pollard is using faulty logic. He claims that single game tickets will be available for the other games but that will be impossible if his plan works becuse they will all be sold out. This will be a PR nightmare if it doesn't work. What happned to the 4.2 million budget surplus we had when he got here? Mostly I just don't like his tone. He comes off defensive and a little bit snide. If the team wins people will buy season tickets. he's telling people to buy tickets first. That's not really a problem for me but for many people it will be.
Kind of reminds me of the mindset of american auto executives counting on people to buy infereior products out of guilt instead of a desire for the product.
I also don't like his implying that we will have to drop out of the Big 12 if this doesn't work. that's ********* and he knows it. i dont think his logic is faulty, there would still be single game tickets for the grassy areas if all season tickets were sold. i understand your point about getting a bit put off at the suggestion of the alternative of not playing division 1 football. i for one didnt take that as literal, but took it as the only way to be competitive in division 1 is to financially support it.
I don't agree with your analogy about an american car company, putting out an inferior product. to use your analogy, of a company out of touch and putting out an inferior product, i would view it more like a value stock. as an investor i am being asked to buy 1 or 2 tickets (shares) where there seems to be no growth or momentum. I see a change of ceo's, a strong statement with new young management teams, upgrading facilities and retooling for the years to come. somebody who is looking at marketing the product, and telling investors, exactly his vision for the company and what it will take for success. that is a value story that i will invest in. finding something undervalued before the market in general realizes it.
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01-21-2007, 11:58 PM
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#34 | | All-Star
Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Waterloo, Iowa
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How the heck did this thread stray this far? Debating who has money and who doesn't? JP's going to take some heat until the big game is played this fall. I think it's a gutsy move and I think it's the right move. If all we're doing is upsetting the Hawkeye fan base, who cares? If we have 10,000 empty seats, who cares; because those seats would have been filled with Hawkeye's who are against our team winning anyway.
Let's quit whining, and let's start getting those season ticket bought!
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01-22-2007, 12:18 AM
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#35 | | Walk On
Join Date: Nov 2006
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Credits: 211,250 | Originally Posted by GoShow97 I don't think it is a slight. The facts are that farming is very capital intensive and that finances play a big role. Private and Gov support. To say other wise is just chosing to ignor the facts. Look at the recent farm bill lately? Biggest form of Gov assistance there is of any Gov. program.
true, just didnt think that was the point. that is an old joke/slam at farmers. would love to discuss it with you, via email if you like but this isnt the forum for a debate about free market and ag subsidies. my point was i just thought the post was made in humor and thought it was a bit of a slam towards farmers, not a serious point.
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01-22-2007, 12:32 AM
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#36 | | Walk On
Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Tulsa, OK
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Credits: 212,198 | Originally Posted by HandSanitizer I think we need to be setting our goal at 40,000 season tickets within the next few years. Then get our NCC membership up to 20,000 instead of 6,000 or whatever it is. Lastly get on TV b/c that is what pays nice money and helps recruiting. We need our budget over 40 Million oppposed to 28 million.
I think this was from a couple years ago from the Indy Star
1. University of Texas $89,651,682 2. Texas A&M University $64,180,453 3. University of Nebraska $55,876,334 4. University of Kansas $50,826,019 5. Texas Tech University $47,961,420 6. University of Missouri $46,812,603 7. Kansas State University $39,884,220 8. University of Colorado $35,851,791 9. Iowa State University $28,913,010
We are never going to catch the big guys, but if we were middle of the pack in budget and get our facilities upgraded, we will be fine. Totally agree. Key message...everyone should join the NCC at any level they can afford. It is a big part of JP's vision. Read more about it on www.cyclones.com. JP's goal is to get 1 out 10 living ISU alumni to join the NCC. It has worked for other schools. It will work at ISU.
I figure anyone who buys into the NCC and gets 2007 Football season tickets will get better seats this year and in the future. It is much better to show support early.
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01-22-2007, 10:16 AM
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#37 | | Walk On
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i agree with you t.c. and h.s. with regards to ncc membership and gifting. if you look at the big picture of stadium expansion, you probably need to have 40,000 plus season ticket holders before trying to expand regardless of gifting. i am more excited and optomistic than i have ever been about cyclone atheletics. the fan base is really getting a grass roots movement on making this plan their own and doing what they can to make it succeed. i am cautiously optomistic about actually selling out in season tickets.
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01-22-2007, 11:05 AM
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#38 | | Starter
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I've heard a lot of comments on how if the plan doesn't work, there will be empty seats on national television and it wont look good at all.. Last time we played the Hawkeyes in Ames and let them buy tickets, we still had thousands of empty seats on national television. Granted, they weren't empty until the end of the 3rd quarter... :-)
Hawks should love this idea, because it eliminates the national audience witnessing the flood of Black and Gold towards the exit.
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01-22-2007, 11:09 AM
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#39 | | Pro
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I just watched the interview. Terrible reporter questions. The reporter just didn't get it. Jamie is telling this reporter that Iowa does the SAME thing now but you also need to make a large donation to get a season ticket. Yet the reporter didn't understand that. Duh. Terrible interview. Jamie made his point about 10 different times. I find it hilarious how the Hawks feel like ISU owes them something. That Iowa should have been consulted and this ticket thing is all about them. Well, it isn't. It is about ISU alumni buying season tix instead of single game tix. Thats all.
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