I would say 7 gets Big XII coach of the year and 9 wins would be national.
Also, I feel sorry for those who automatically chalk the Iowa game as a W because "they're not that good this year."
2500 yards passing by Bret and 1300 yards by Jamaicah means defense gets a break. Seven wins for us.
Webster's Dictionary defines "swagger" as:
I can't believe all the people that were convinced we would win the big 12 last are same people that believe we will finish last next year. You always have to wait to see how things play out. Additionally, we get Iowa, Oklahoma, Texas at home which is easier than on the road when people predicted 7,8,9 wins last year. All of our skill positions on offense return next year plus an updated offensive line. Furthermore, we have experience on defense which we didn't have along with more size and more depth. People need to calm down and see how things play out before they get too excited or depressed.
iowa at home makes it more likely we will win that game, but nonetheless its a rivalry game which always makes it a swing game/too close to call...Oklahoma and Texas at home? Whoopty-doo, We could play them on the moon, it wouldn't matter, it's Texas and Oklahoma, i am not trying to be pessimistic, but we are nowhere near there level, and if we SOMEHOW were to beat them, it would hafta be a semi-fluke upset. Now in '08 and '09 when we get A&M, OK St, and Baylor instead I think we'll find ourselves in the big 12 championship game, definitely in the hunt. But I don't see us standing much of a chance against texas or oklahoma until '10-'11 and that still depends on how consistent we are in recruiting quality guys. 'Course if we do beat either team next year, u can look for my black *** to be stormin the field and trying to tear down those goalposts that are almost impossible to take down.
There are a couple of "unseens" that the '07 team will have that the 'o6 team didn't...
1. a winner attitude that Chizik brings to the table
2. more then a three play O
3. experienced D - that will be allowed to "play"
If the Clones can go into Lincoln 4-0 and win there - a special season will be brewing!
They will have a more athletic OL this year all season last ISU had trouble with DL being too fast and running around them to get to Meyer. Brant and Fisher struggled all year because they were too slow. I really think the O will be much better and ISU will win 6-8 games.
I remember those seasons as well. We had a couple of players on our floor, Jack Thomas and Kevin Havick. The kicker lived the floor above me(Tom Gugion or something like that. He was a sophmore at the time in 73 when he hit the crossbar on the extra point against Neb. which would have broke the 23 all tie. I felt so bad for him he was a good kid.
Ike Harris either lived about me or always was visiting I think his future wife. Man was she hot. I remember coaches Jackie Sherrel and Johnson coming on the floor checking on the guys. Alert!!Alert!!! LOL
Just great memories!!!!
I too was there during the "Major years", yes I wasn't sober either but there truley was "Swagger" in those days..........I was at the OSU game in Stillwater when we clobbered them like 49-0........attitude and playing above your ability was the rule of the day........can it happen again? New coaches new attitidue, new players, new swagger..........it didn't take Majors 12 years it took 2 years........ISU was going to Bowls and playing like a Big Eight contender very quickly.....probably won't happen in '07 but who cares........'08 and beyond will be fun.
Wow cyclonelifer...it's hard not to be ready for some football after reading that. Perhaps you can talk someone into letting you give that in a speech to this team. Really - I loved it. I'm adding it to my subscribed threads and will be using some of those things this fall for my own youth football team.
Regarding your message - I think you make some great points. Football is about emotion and attitude. I sometimes wonder if the players entered a game or two this fall, after disappointing wins over lessor teams - with the attitude that they couldn't win.
Chizik sure seems like a guy that will have zero tolerance for that from anyone - including the fans.
I love your story (saw one game at old Clyde Williams in my youth) and your enthusiasm, but you left a little bit out regarding the growing pains that preceeded the bowl teams of 1971 and 1972. There's no denying that Johnny Majors was a GREAT coach, as evidenced by his National Coach of the Year Awards at Pitt in 1973 & 1976 (National Champs), but his five year record at ISU ('68-'72) was 24-30-1. In short, it took a hall of fame college football coach three years to build the foundation for ISU's 1970's "glory days" football program!
JM's season by season records at ISU:
1971: 8-4 (including Sun Bowl loss)
1972: 5-6-1 (including Liberty Bowl loss)
I don't want to be a wet blanket, but you can't expect Gene Chizek to turn things around in a single year. We're Cyclone fans and patience is a virtue we've all learned over the years. Let's give Chizek the chance to build this squad along the lines of a Johnny Majors, without burdening him with unreasonable expectations!
I love the spirit of the post that started this thread!
We need more fans that have high expectations for ISU football (and athletics in general)! Most head coaches have to temper their fans’ optimism but for some reason at ISU we are automatically pessimistic for the most part.
We need fewer fans that are too willing to utter "give it some time", "wait 'til he gets his players", “patience is a virtue”, “it probably won't happen in '07”, “we are nowhere near there level”, “you always have to wait to see”, “we’re at a disadvantage with a team learning an entirely new system”, and “I will be happy if we just show some improvement”.
Rationalization, excuses, and patience are for losers. I thank God every day that we have hired athletic administrators and head coaches that know winning is always something you do right now…you don’t wait for it to happen. The leaders of our program are results oriented and in sports results = wins.
The Big 12 North is once again very weak. We have a focused coach used to preparing teams to win every game. Yes, football is about attitude and emotion. But it is also about putting the right players in the right positions, creating a winning game plan, and having the discipline to win your assignment on every play from scrimmage.
Yes it can be done at Iowa State! It can be done now! Why not us? Why not now?
I think we all have high expectations for the football program and I hope you're correct in your belief that GC is the rare coach who can do all the things you've denoted, in short order! I'll be here singing his praises and admitting the error of my doubt if the beloved Cyclones get to eight wins this fall! If not, I'll continue to purchase my five long-term season tickets and do my best to be a good fan...
P.S. The "patience is for losers" comment stings! :sad9cd:
Read the book and join me in attracting a winning Cyclone FB program!
I was not trying to sting you (or anyone else) with my comments. However, I firmly believe that we need to totally adjust our mindset as Cyclone fans! I believe it was our "patience" that kept us muddling around for too long with our prior coach.