Re: How Long Until We are Good?
I admit, I thought 8-8 was possible after the first 3 conf games, but I definitely think we're 3 years away from being good now. I am very impressed with the level of talent/coaching in the Big XII, and I think wins are going to be tougher than ever to come by. We'll be a better team, but so will our competition.
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You are right Kyro!!!!! A good big man CENTER and a good Point Guard and we are on our way to a good postseason berth in the big dance.
BTW...I voted for 2 years also!!!!!!!!!
Come On Clones...Lets "Saw'em Off" come saturday afternoon in Austin TX!!!!!!
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I put down next year, given your criteria of 20 wins and the dance. As I stated in another post, I think we definitely have what it'll take to at least be in the mix. So might be a little off base w/ my selection and say that we'll be maybe a 17 or 18 win team on the bubble.
I agree with a couple posters above, that a solid center would be a difference maker. But I think a true PG who can be a general and not just somebody to bring the ball up the court would make more of a difference. Fact is that our biggest problem these past few weeks has been Taylor has the ball in his hands TOO MUCH. Defending us has been easy - stop Taylor = stop ISU.
Our offense is limited to two options. If Taylor is required to create his own shot from the outside, it relies on WJ or JH to come out and set screens, taking them away from offensive option. Otherwise, if he tries to dribble penetrate, the entire D is allowed to collapse because we don't have much of an alternative outside threat. That's about 75% of our game right there.
Get a guard that takes the responsibilities off MT, and I think you open up a world of possibilites. Again, not to compare players. But what was more important in '00? The arrival of Jamaal Tinsley or the emergence (he he) of Paul Shirley? (This is not a prediction of Conf Championships or Elite 8 run in 2008)
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cygoat
I admit, I thought 8-8 was possible after the first 3 conf games, but I definitely think we're 3 years away from being good now. I am very impressed with the level of talent/coaching in the Big XII, and I think wins are going to be tougher than ever to come by. We'll be a better team, but so will our competition.
Quite agree!
Playing Missouri in a few years is really going to suck. Once Anderson starts getting the players he needs it's going to be hell. Huggins has taken K-state to a level it's never seen in a matter of one year. Even bottom dwellers like Colorado, and Baylor have good coaches. I think the Big XII is really on the way to being a basketball super conferance. It's going to be hard for any team to win consistantly.
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I thought 8-8 was not necessarily realistic going into this season but I thought 7-9 at least after the way we started conference play. Let's face it, we were a couple mistakes away from beating Kansas and we did play horrible against K-State, Mizzou, and Colorado I thought we'd at least get 2 wins out of those games. This team has shown flashes how good it can be (Kansas) and how bad (Mizzou and Colorado) but I thought after how we have played at times in the conference we'd be sitting with 5 or 6 conference wins right now and not 3 and while the remaining schedule is tough I would hope that Colorado at home and Nebraska on the road would be at least 2 wins we could pick up so 7 or 8 wins should have been realistic. This is not a terrible team, it's just not disciplined, deep, and expirienced enough right now to win some of the games it lost.
Why can't we hope that Garrett and/or Brackins have the immediate impact next season like Wesley has given us? If they do this team should be shooting for an NCAA berth next season. With some added depth and a somewhat expirenced post addition in Thompson plus the guys coming back this team on paper looks much better than it does right now.
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Cyphor
Quite agree!
Even bottom dwellers like Colorado, and Baylor have good coaches.
Patton is done at Colorado after this season and he's been there quite some time with success once in awhile but hasn't done too much to brag about.
I like Baylor's coach but he's been there a few seasons already and at some point you wonder if they'll ever recover from the scandal as they were not a hot spot to go to in the first place.
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travman23
Patton is done at Colorado after this season and he's been there quite some time with success once in awhile but hasn't done too much to brag about.
I like Baylor's coach but he's been there a few seasons already and at some point you wonder if they'll ever recover from the scandal as they were not a hot spot to go to in the first place.
Yeah, these places are graveyards for basketball. It's going to take somone amazing to turn these programs around. I was saying that if either of these coaches coached at more respectable basketball schools they would probebly be dependable winners.
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I'm in for next year.
I'm one of those who have bought into Thompson being the answer in the middle next year. He's a prototypical McDermott big guy, in the vein of Stout and Coleman.
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I'm expecting and waiting for Huggins and K-State to ... well, be Huggins and K-State
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Ok, who voted for never :growl5cj:
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We can be really good next year, if Diante can come in and just run the point. Then Michael Taylor doesnt have to and he can just play the 2 where he can be most dangerous. We dont need superstar numbers from Diante but getting 5 points, 5 assists and 5 rebounds from him next year would be great.