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02-20-2007, 03:02 PM
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I am not a huge Buckeye hater either (even though they are one of the biggest cheating programs in the nation). But how can a team be rated #1 when they have only beaten 1 ranked team (Tenn) all year?!?!
To top that off they got beat by 26 to Florida and the Gators have the same record. I just don't see how a team can be on top when they have been beating up on cupcakes to get there. Teams like NC, Florida, Wisconsin, Kansas, have won enough quality games to make a case. Ohio St has not
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02-20-2007, 03:17 PM
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They have three losses (UNC, Florida and Wisconsin) all to top 5 teams.
No one else can make that claim.
Wisconsin should probably be #1, as they only have 2 losses and have beated OSU, but it really doesn't matter anyway.
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02-20-2007, 03:29 PM
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That is what makes March Madness great. They are going to get "upset" along the way.
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02-20-2007, 03:30 PM
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They got killed by Florida. Killed. I don't care who they LOSE to. It is about who you beat!! Which in Ohio St's case is nobody.
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02-20-2007, 03:47 PM
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Unlike football, rankings don't mean much in colllege hoops. The one thing to OSU's credit is they ALMOST beat UNC without Oden. That would be pretty tough.
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02-20-2007, 03:57 PM
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Maybe it is just my hatred for the Big 10 here, but I see this as the media once again giving a Big 10 team way to much credit. You have to earn a #1 ranking. Heck even a top 5 ranking and Ohio St has not done that. The media is so high and mighty over their fresmen and how it is the best class ever. I just don't see it. They are good but how are they any better than Texas class, or UNC's, or Kansas last year?
Almost wins don't count for anything. Look at our game against KU. If Ohio St almost wins the big games but don't, then turn around and beat Northwestern and Penn St are they #1. I dont think so
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02-20-2007, 04:04 PM
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That Florida game was how long ago? 12/23 and Oden was not nearly as healthy as he was back then. Florida just lost to 18-8 Vanderbilt, what did you expect, they'd stay number 1? OSU RPI is also #3 to Florida's #7 and their SOS is 22 spots higher as well.
Who cares which team is #1 at this point? They all still have to play games and earn seedings.
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02-20-2007, 04:20 PM
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I think OSU is deserving. So are a few other teams. When you get that high - top 5ish - in basketball - it's tough to determine a clear #1.
The final weeks and conference tournaments will help sort that out.
On a March Madness note - I'd love to see OSU, Wisconsin, Kansas and A&M in the final 4. It will never happen - but what a set of 3 heavyweight battles that would be.
I still think A&M is the best team. 2 of their losses came to highly ranked UCLA and LSU. The other two, they were nipped by Tech (by 2 points in each game) twice.
I wouldn't want to be the opposition if A&M is down by 2 or 3 and needs a 3 point shot to win/tie - seeing Law headed down the floor.
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02-20-2007, 06:04 PM
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Once again I don't care who they lost to or when. All that matters is who you beat. Sure Ohio St's RPI is #3 but that is b/c they have played 3 quality out of conference teams. And LOST to all of them. You have to beat somebody to earn that recognition. They beat Penn St by 2 last week. Penn St would get smoked by Vandy.
I know rankings don't matter, I just find it funny how the Big 10 has the 1 and 2 teams in the country and nobody else is ranked. I wonder why that is. Hmmmm maybe b/c they don't play anyone else. I do think Wisconsin is deserving a high ranking. They have had some big wins.
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02-20-2007, 08:45 PM
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Credits: 1,003,278 Year: 2005 | Originally Posted by Clones85' Maybe it is just my hatred for the Big 10 here, but I see this as the media once again giving a Big 10 team way to much credit. You have to earn a #1 ranking. Wisconsin is actually the AP #1 right now. It's the coache's poll that has them at #1. http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/rankingsindex | | |
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02-20-2007, 08:54 PM
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Um...where are the folks that felt Wisky should be ahead of OSU?
They're about to get beat at the hands of MSU.
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02-20-2007, 08:56 PM
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Credits: 748 | Originally Posted by Clones85' I know rankings don't matter, I just find it funny how the Big 10 has the 1 and 2 teams in the country and nobody else is ranked. I wonder why that is. Hmmmm maybe b/c they don't play anyone else. It's very simple: when teams ahead of them have lost, they've won. They got their losses out of the way early, and other teams are losing later. To me, the polls don't even convey who the best teams are in order. It's just a small factor.
Now that I look at ESPN, looks like Wisconsin will lose and drop a few spots.
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02-20-2007, 10:56 PM
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isconsin just lost their thoird game and if they beat OSU, Florida will be back. The NCAA should be wide open for any of top 8 to win this year
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02-20-2007, 10:58 PM
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Big TelevEN = over rated. Number one teams losing to unrankeds? thbbpbttt.
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02-20-2007, 11:03 PM
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I've wondered why OSU and Wisconsin have been ranked so high all year. I've seen both of them play and yes they're good, but they sure don't look dominant enough to be 1 & 2?
Fact of the matter is, I think there's a lot of parity out of there this year.
Hey the Big Dance is coming in a few weeks. We'll know then who really has the goods....
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