Tim Floyd

**acody** · 03-23-2007, 09:28 PM

Watching USC v. NC. Without regard as to how this game turns out, Tim Floyd is the best coach in ISU history. Flat out stud in recruiting and game coaching!

**cyclonenum1** · 03-24-2007, 08:22 AM

Tim Floyd is certainly a good coach...but the best coach in ISU history is Johnny Orr...he brought us back from "the dead" like Jesus brought Lazarus back from the dead...A MIRACLE WORKER!

By the way, Floyd won 23 games his first year (with Orr's players may I note). He won 24 in his second year and 22 in his third year (with some good juco players of questionable character). But in his fourth year when the program was clearly "his program" he won 12 games. After that he bolted for the NBA.

Again, he is a good college coach but I do not understand the "reverence" some ISU fans have for him.

**brianhos** · 03-24-2007, 08:33 AM

Originally Posted by cyclone#1

Tim Floyd is certainly a good coach...but the best coach in ISU history is Johnny Orr...he brought us back from "the dead" like Jesus brought Lazarus back from the dead...A MIRACLE WORKER!

Kinda like DMac, but he is the villian around here. Johnny was a great guy and certainly a lovable coach, but Floyd was the better game day coach of the two.

**VII_Fe** · 03-24-2007, 08:42 AM

Tim Floyd is certainly a good coach...but the best coach in ISU history is Johnny Orr...he brought us back from "the dead" like Jesus brought Lazarus back from the dead...A MIRACLE WORKER!

This debate is apples and oranges. Johnny did for Basketball what Mac did for Football...pumped life into a dead program. But Johnny could not do what Floyd and LE did, WIN ON THE ROAD, Win Big 8 tournamnet titles, Win Big XII League and tournament titles.

In terms of putting a good product in Hilton Johnny wins hands down, exciting basketball! But when his teams went on the road, they sucked.

Floyd's style would put most people to sleep, but he won, and won on the road through defense.

LE brought a nicer mixture of up-tempo with Defense.

All 3 were great coaches, in their own way and all did tremendous things for ISU. Hey how about something we can all agree on.... all 3 are better then Alford!

**brianhos** · 03-24-2007, 08:52 AM

Originally Posted by VII_Fe

All 3 were great coaches, in their own way and all did tremendous things for ISU. Hey how about something we can all agree on.... all 3 are better then Alford!

No way man, Steve was my favorite coach of all time!

**VII_Fe** · 03-24-2007, 08:57 AM

Originally Posted by brianhos

No way man, Steve was my favorite coach of all time!

I really can't argue with that. He is my favorite Iowa Coach as well. My main concern is they may hire someone who can take them to the next level.

Of course the next level in their case would be the level Dr. Tom had them at before Alford dropped them to the next lower level.

**Clones85'** · 03-24-2007, 09:02 AM

Floyd never won a Big 12 title. Won a big 8 Tourney Championship and that was it. Floyd is a great coach but Eustachy was by far and away the best game day coach of anyone we have had. Orr's teams where the most fun to watch with all the running they did on offense.

Floyd's team losing the 16 point lead last night was not the first time he has done this in the sweet 16. Remember UCLA down in San Antonio. Up 16 in the second half in that game before F ing Cameron Dollars shot

**everyyard** · 03-24-2007, 09:27 AM

Whatever...Who cut the nets?!! Larry might have been an alcoholic and using some of Floyd's guys, and sure he had some bad seasons and some dismall retention rates but give the guy some credit. He cut the freaking nets and has two of the biggest trophies ISU has ever won sitting in the trophy case. Plus if the elite eight game was ANYWHERE but in Michigan we are probably national champs. You guys can put Orr and Floyd up on a lighted pedistal but give me the guy who brings the hardware.

**GM4ISU** · 03-24-2007, 09:38 AM

Originally Posted by everyyard

Whatever...Who cut the nets?!! Larry might have been an alcoholic and using some of Floyd's guys, and sure he had some bad seasons and some dismall retention rates but give the guy some credit. He cut the freaking nets and has two of the biggest trophies ISU has ever won sitting in the trophy case. Plus if the elite eight game was ANYWHERE but in Michigan we are probably national champs. You guys can put Orr and Floyd up on a lighted pedistal but give me the guy who brings the hardware.

Larry was the best!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

**goldmember** · 03-24-2007, 09:39 AM

Orr Made ISU BBall what it is today....but Floyd is hands down the best coach we've had.....but McDermott could take that title.

**cycfan1** · 03-24-2007, 09:45 AM

Floyd was a heck of a coach but what he did last night was flat out stupid, getting a tech with his team down by 6.

**Clones85'** · 03-24-2007, 11:01 AM

I think people have this perceived notion that b/c Floyd left for the Bulls he is automatically the best coach ISU has ever had. Fact of the matter is that it was Eustachy that was coach of the year. Coached us to an elite 8, won 2 regular season Big 12 titles, a tourney title, and coached 2 all americans. His accomplishments are far superior than Floyds.

This no knock on Floyd who is a tremendous coach. Can recruit and coach D but when it comes to coaching X's and O's LE is the man

**Rickybaby** · 03-24-2007, 11:20 AM

I am still mystified by the Tim Floyd hero worship. Yes, he was good coach by Xs and Os standards. But pray for those who had to play for him. His recruiting over and running off players by the boatloads still leaves a bad taste in my mouth. His one recruiting class of 11 players, only a couple of who ever panned out, is legondary. If you care to recall, the turnover we have seen the last couple of years with so many players coming and going happened every year under TF. With his coaching skills, if he ever could have recruited and actually kept his players for 4 years he would have been awsome. It will be interesting to see how he works out at USC or whether he does the same things.

**Cyclone62** · 03-24-2007, 11:51 AM

Originally Posted by goldmember

Orr Made ISU BBall what it is today....but Floyd is hands down the best coach we've had.....but McDermott could take that title.

My two cents is that without Orr (to get everyone excited about ISU BB), we would probably be in Iowa's shoes right now. Yes TF was a great coach for ISU, but LE did more with his team. Again, without Orr rejuvenating the fan base, we wouldn't have had either one of them.

**kralon20** · 03-24-2007, 12:07 PM

Can't find the thread from yesterday that was talking about Floyd and OJ Mayo, but here is an interview with Floyd about Mayo. Pretty interesting...

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0Pcjt7oJqc"]YouTube - OJ Mayo on PTI[/ame]