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03-30-2007, 03:23 PM
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I don't know if anyone has caught Paul Shirley's latest article, but it's quite interesting. It's his perspective on Mich St's B.S. victory over us in the NCAA tourney a few years back that kept us from the Final Four. http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/column...t&lid=tab6pos2 | | | 
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03-30-2007, 03:44 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Kansas
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Wow, he did great job with that one...and not just because it was about ISU.
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03-30-2007, 03:57 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: West Des Moines
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Credits: 1,090,218 Year: 2004 NFL: Bears MLB: Cubs | Re: Paul Shirley Diary
Once again...how in the world can that play be called a double foul?
Has anyone seen anything like that since?
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03-30-2007, 03:59 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Dallas, TX
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Nicest guy in the world... I'll always have a place in my heart for him, getting to spend 5 days with him and another friend when he was playing ball in Barcelona.
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03-30-2007, 03:59 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Dallas, TX
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Originally Posted by cycloneworld  Once again...how in the world can that play be called a double foul?
Has anyone seen anything like that since? I don't think we ever will...
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"People tend to overestimate what they can achieve in a year, but underestimate what they can achieve in a lifetime. Start with the molehill, then build the mountain. Start where you are with what you are and never lose sight of your dream." -Anthony Robbins | |
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03-30-2007, 04:08 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2006
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That was a really great journal piece. I was one of the few thousand ISU fans at that game. I think it took him a awhile to realize how proud everyone was.
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03-30-2007, 04:10 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Des Moines
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That team provided me with some of the best moments of my life. Great piece by Paul.
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03-30-2007, 04:14 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: West Des Moines, IA
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Originally Posted by cycloneworld Once again...how in the world can that play be called a double foul?
Has anyone seen anything like that since? The only thing close to this was the call at Kansas on the shot between our free throws counting. But I do not recall seeing another double foul other than a double technical before or since.
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03-30-2007, 04:18 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Ames via Sioux Falls, SD
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Credits: 316,333 MLB: Cubs | Re: Paul Shirley Diary
Hahaha...."Gosh that's neat. (I had not yet been exposed to the cruelties of the world outside of the Midwest, so I thought in sock-hop.)"
Classic.
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03-30-2007, 06:25 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Burnsville, MN
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Credits: 123,616 Year: 2002 Degree: ME MLB: Twins | Re: Paul Shirley Diary
Just got a chance to read the article. Great piece of writing by Paul.
The worst part of that game is that that championship was ours for the taking after Michigan State. Not a real stellar final four that year. MSU ran away with it.
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03-30-2007, 07:40 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Wichita, KS
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"We did quickly realize the following: Blocking foul, good for us. Charging foul, bad for us. Double foul, bad for us . . . and bad for the referees. Public admissions of ineptitude are rarely looked upon fondly by 18,000 basketball fans.
(Unless those fans are overwhelmingly in support of the team that stands to benefit from the call. Like if the game is played in Auburn Hills, Mich. and one of the teams' campuses is in East Lansing, Michigan. Not that we found that 10:1 green-to-red advantage daunting. Or that I'm the least bitter about the logistics.)"
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03-30-2007, 07:57 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Urbandale
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Credits: 337,323 NFL: Chiefs NBA: Bulls MLB: Cubs | Re: Paul Shirley Diary
Originally Posted by aeroclone08 "We did quickly realize the following: Blocking foul, good for us. Charging foul, bad for us. Double foul, bad for us . . . and bad for the referees. Public admissions of ineptitude are rarely looked upon fondly by 18,000 basketball fans.
(Unless those fans are overwhelmingly in support of the team that stands to benefit from the call. Like if the game is played in Auburn Hills, Mich. and one of the teams' campuses is in East Lansing, Michigan. Not that we found that 10:1 green-to-red advantage daunting. Or that I'm the least bitter about the logistics.)"
I loved this. How true. That was my favorite part of the article also. No way in the world should the committee have set the brackets so that could have happened. Not ever.
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03-30-2007, 08:01 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Arlington, TX
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Credits: 481,284 Year: 1994 NFL: Vikings NBA: Lakers MLB: Dodgers | Re: Paul Shirley Diary
Originally Posted by cycloneworld Once again...how in the world can that play be called a double foul?
Has anyone seen anything like that since? I saw something like that before...I was playing IM BB (in Beyer I think) many years ago. Two guys went for a loose ball and collided on the floor. The ref (who was definitely from somewhere other than the USA) called a double foul. Naturally everybody get mad, so the supervisor comes over to see what was going on. Apparently, these refs were in some kind of BB officiating class and were getting some experience officiating IM games. The supervisor told us that they had studied the double foul in the class earlier that day. The guy was probably new to BB, so that might have been his first exposure to getting yelled at by a bunch of disgruntled players.
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03-30-2007, 08:40 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2006
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what a good article. the only thing that bothers me are the few comments written by hawkeye fans at the end of the article (you have to click on the "comments" link) that attempt to call shirley a baby...it's things like that give me my overall negative opinion of hawkeye fans
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03-30-2007, 09:10 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Ankeny, IA
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Originally Posted by Copley305 what a good article. the only thing that bothers me are the few comments written by hawkeye fans at the end of the article (you have to click on the "comments" link) that attempt to call shirley a baby...it's things like that give me my overall negative opinion of hawkeye fans
just go back at them and say Greg Brunner & we were playing for more
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