Marty and Miller and Jon Miller

**Torks_Pub** · 04-04-2007, 08:52 AM

Originally Posted by acody

Jon Miller is a pompus, smug a-hole. He's Dr. Phil for hawkeye fans. Everything is rationalized in his beautiful world of hawkeye athletics. I do not listen to his call in show, but occasionally I've heard his Camelot rendition of iowa hawkeye sports on Deace's show. It's all paved with gold streets. I know I could not handle listening to his two hour hawkeye circle jerk love fest.

In other words, he's a typical Hawkeye.

Did anyone else catch him last week (or so) admit that he went to Southern Illinois, not Iowa? What a schmuck.

**ISUAlum2002** · 04-04-2007, 09:00 AM

Originally Posted by Torks_Pub

Did anyone else catch him last week (or so) admit that he went to Southern Illinois, not Iowa? What a schmuck.

That's been long known as a fact. Basically, he's a bandwagoner like most other Hawk fans.

**URBCLONE** · 04-04-2007, 09:07 AM

Originally Posted by Jerry1982

Don't dance around the issues. Just tell us how you really feel.

No kidding

**ArathornClone** · 04-04-2007, 09:09 AM

Originally Posted by ISUAlum2002

That's been long known as a fact. Basically, he's a bandwagoner like most other Hawk fans.

So if you didn't attend the university of the team you root for you are a bandwagoner? Ridiculous statement.

**ISUFan22** · 04-04-2007, 09:10 AM

Originally Posted by ArathornClone

So if you didn't attend the university of the team you root for you are a bandwagoner? Ridiculous statement.

**ISUAlum2002** · 04-04-2007, 09:15 AM

Originally Posted by ArathornClone

So if you didn't attend the university of the team you root for you are a bandwagoner?

In his case (and many others), yes.

**tube1** · 04-04-2007, 09:30 AM

Originally Posted by Torks_Pub

In other words, he's a typical Hawkeye.

Did anyone else catch him last week (or so) admit that he went to Southern Illinois, not Iowa? What a schmuck.

Didn't he grow up just outside of Iowa City though? Credit to him, he was probably a Hawkeye long before he ever heard of Carbondale, IL.

**HILLCYD** · 04-04-2007, 09:32 AM

Originally Posted by tube1

Didn't he grow up just outside of Iowa City though? Credit to him, he was probably a Hawkeye long before he ever heard of Carbondale, IL.

I think he was born in Eastern Iowa somewhere, and lived there for a while. But I think I heard he then moved to IL and lived there. Could be wrong.

**ISUAlum2002** · 04-04-2007, 09:33 AM

BTW, I didn't say being a bandwagoner is bad. We have plenty of bandwagon fans, and their money is just as green as anyone elses. Just appears that the ratio of bandwagon fans is much higher with Iowa than it is with ISU.

**ISUFan22** · 04-04-2007, 09:36 AM

Originally Posted by ISUAlum2002

Just appears that the ratio of bandwagon fans is much higher with Iowa than it is with ISU.

Hmmm...now why is that?

Because they have a history of winning. I won't fault them for winning.

Winning creates bandwagon fans. We (ISU fans) desperately want to start winning.

Therefore, indirectly - we want more bandwagon fans.

**Prone2Clone** · 04-04-2007, 09:58 AM

Originally Posted by ISUFan22

Because they have a history of winning. I won't fault them for winning.

I agree winning breeds bandwagon fans and we'd all secretly love to have more buying Cyclone merchandise and talking Cyclone sports around the state. But I'd have to insert the word "better" before "history" for Iowa. It's not like they've got 5 or 6 national titles in football or basketball under their belt. Relative to Iowa State? More winning history. Relative to a whole heck of a lot of other programs? Not that stellar. Unless, of course, you ask a Squawk fan.

**ISUFan22** · 04-04-2007, 09:59 AM

Right, this discussion is relative to ISU.

**jparker22** · 04-04-2007, 10:05 AM

We do not want more Bandwagon fans... Bandwagon fans scream for the coaches head during the game when we are down by 1 in the first quarter. Bandwagon fans do not donate money, may not even go to the games, and only associate themselves with the team for a sense of belonging. Bandwagon fan is the fan that we all talk about wearing his oilstained black and yellow starter jacket, and hat. The only good thing about the bandwagon is that we have won enough games to attract them, but we certainly do not want them. I'll take the wins, but as for Badwagoners. Pass.

**CyBobby** · 04-04-2007, 10:08 AM

Originally Posted by joepublic

Marty is providing a nice balance to Jon Miller's ludicrous fan boy worship of lickliter today.

He know has ole' Lickliter down to Iowa's fifth choice, since Lowery turned them down, as he says he convinced.

I must say I've found a place for M&M just to get some semblance of balance onto the airwaves.

I AGREE old Jonnie Boy is pure cheerleader on the airwaves. My Prediction: The eiu fanbase will run off Lickliter after he fails to win either a big 11 or national championship in his 3rd year!

**Cyclonesrule91** · 04-04-2007, 10:10 AM

Originally Posted by jparker22

We do not want more Bandwagon fans... Bandwagon fans scream for the coaches head during the game when we are down by 1 in the first quarter. Bandwagon fans do not donate money, may not even go to the games, and only associate themselves with the team for a sense of belonging. Bandwagon fan is the fan that we all talk about wearing his oilstained black and yellow starter jacket, and hat. The only good thing about the bandwagon is that we have won enough games to attract them, but we certainly do not want them. I'll take the wins, but as for Badwagoners. Pass.

Agree 100%, money from a bandwagon fan is green like the rest of the money, but how much money can you get off a McDonalds salary.