Bates and Arnaud

**Mesaclone** · 04-09-2007, 03:16 PM

Could they be the next Stanley and Hardemann? You old guys know what I'm talking about. That was the greatest offense I ever saw in an ISU uniform. I think Arnaud would be the Stanley clone and Bates, with his speed and great running ability, equates to a Hardemann. All that's lacking then is a stud RB (Bass?).

I just wonder if that kind of combo is a working possibility in this era of football.

**hfthomp** · 04-09-2007, 03:19 PM

Stanley and Hardemann, shoot. The best combo ISU ever had was Doxon and Bandhauer. Barnacle Todd and Dream Maker, I used to call them. Doxon was as fast as fired up badger and smelled like the sea. Bandhauer could throw a great spiral, and did a TON of work to help out the Ames homeless people. Bandy once told me...give a homeless guy a burger and he's set for the night. Teach a homeless guy how to catch, skin and cook and alapaca and he's set for LIFE. Believe that!

**ISUFan22** · 04-09-2007, 03:24 PM

I highly doubt both guys will play QB for ISU. One will emerge as the starter and the other will convert or (hopefully not) transfer elsewhere.

Being Arnaud and Bates seem to be such great athletes, it would be foolish to have one of them on the sidelines.

**cmoore_23** · 04-09-2007, 03:24 PM

i honestly do not see us running a 2 qb system.. but then again you never know, and dont underestimate Arnaud's speed, for his size he is pretty agile

**Mesaclone** · 04-09-2007, 03:28 PM

I loved Bandhauer and Doxson...but they couldn't hold a candle to Hardemann/Stanley and that incredible offense. They were just unstoppable.

**wheels686** · 04-09-2007, 03:30 PM

i still think arnaud will emerge as the starting quarterback and bates switching to safety.

**cmoore_23** · 04-09-2007, 03:36 PM

Originally Posted by wheels686

i still think arnaud will emerge as the starting quarterback and bates switching to safety.

i agree, but i think Bates will stay at qb.. i think he redshirts this year and comes in as a SR..
but then again.. idk if he would like to stay on the sidelines, so u may be right

**dinger** · 04-09-2007, 04:06 PM

Originally Posted by cmoore_23

i agree, but i think Bates will stay at qb.. i think he redshirts this year and comes in as a SR..
but then again

no no no here it is. bates will come in as a JR. arnaud will leave for the nfl a year early after winning the heisman as a junior and then bates will have 2 yrs to shine as our qb.

**clonewell** · 04-09-2007, 04:06 PM

Stanley and Hardemann were very gifted athletes. It is not everyday that a college team can have that kind of combo to rely on. That team was probably one of the best at ISU. It was loaded with talent. Hardemann went on and played in the NFL for the redskins returning punts and then I was told he played in Canadian Football League.

**acody** · 04-09-2007, 04:12 PM

Agree!!!

**JRE1975** · 04-09-2007, 04:28 PM

I will show my age some when I say this, but Stanley and Hardemann were good, but a close second would be Carlson and Amundson in Major's era.

**frontrangeclone** · 04-09-2007, 04:38 PM

who's to say Bates can't be Arnaud out??

what if Arnaud snaps a femur or puts his shoe on backwards or blows an ACL? It sure will be nice to know we have Bates ready to step in.... or vice-versa....

**ketelmeister** · 04-09-2007, 05:21 PM

I see Bates moving to safety eventually. It is a much easier path to the NFL if he is that great of an athlete. If he was threatened by Arnad or for sure wanted a guaranteed spot at QB, he would not have come to ISU. He and Arnad are good friends. Could also be a WR or just about any other spot.

**dinger** · 04-09-2007, 05:37 PM

Originally Posted by frontrangeclone

who's to say Bates can't be Arnaud out??

what if Arnaud snaps a femur or puts his shoe on backwards or blows an ACL? It sure will be nice to know we have Bates ready to step in.... or vice-versa....

whose to say bates cant beat arnaud out? um, you just said yourself that bates will be backing him up..."Bates ready to step in"

**frontrangeclone** · 04-09-2007, 08:12 PM

Originally Posted by dinger7203

whose to say bates cant beat arnaud out? um, you just said yourself that bates will be backing him up..."Bates ready to step in"

Well, Dinger, I just posed the question to begin with, then moved on in the NEXT paragraph, to the notion that if Arnaud is our starter, wouldn't it be great to have a very solid backup? If PB moves to safety, so be it, but I like to see the competition at QB.