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Re: Global Warming - What Do You Believe - O. T.
I think the problem is two fold:
1) Yes there is a problem, and yes as earthlings we need to clean up our act. Countries like the US are trying, but countries like China are polluting at a higher level every day.
2) The global warming and the causes related to human activity are unclear at best. Portions of any volume of data can be shifted through for items that support or don't support someone's theory, and that is what is happening on both sides of this debate.
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Re: Global Warming - What Do You Believe - O. T.
 Originally Posted by CyCloned I think the problem is two fold:
1) Yes there is a problem, and yes as earthlings we need to clean up our act. Countries like the US are trying, but countries like China are polluting at a higher level every day.
2) The global warming and the causes related to human activity are unclear at best. Portions of any volume of data can be shifted through for items that support or don't support someone's theory, and that is what is happening on both sides of this debate. REP FOR YOU! Love the post. Amen
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Re: Global Warming - What Do You Believe - O. T.
Well I see it this way.
1. The Earth repairs itself as needed. Yes our polution and gases, etc are harmful and may contribute to the whole issue. It is not a direct cause but i think over time it weekens the Earth and it must repair itself doing whatever it can to rid itself of the disease.
2. They need a new approach to pollution. "Global Warming" is not cutting it. Maybe they should focus on the human health portion, you may find more facts there than with a theory of global warming. We are basically poisoning ourselves. It seems that diseases and genetic issues are arising at a faster rate.
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Re: Global Warming - What Do You Believe - O. T.
Ain't this been a year I said for frost and blight and flood and drought
Twice as many tornados reckon it's all caused by fallout
No it's the season said Lonnie they change
Wind's gonna blow always did and I'm sold out of flagpoles
Johnny Cash
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Re: Global Warming - What Do You Believe - O. T.
I've heard that one volcanic eruption puts out more CO2 that the U.S. has ever emitted. If that's true, this should be the end of discussion.
Does anyone here really believe Al Gore cares this much about the enviornment?
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Re: Global Warming - What Do You Believe - O. T.
 Originally Posted by ISUonthemove I've heard that one volcanic eruption puts out more CO2 that the U.S. has ever emitted. If that's true, this should be the end of discussion.
Does anyone here really believe Al Gore cares this much about the enviornment? Sure it does. He cares about it as long as it keeps him in the headlines and on people's minds. Maybe Tipper will bring up the poo debate. Humans create too much poo, we are poluting the planet....
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Re: Global Warming - What Do You Believe - O. T.
 Originally Posted by bostinelosd The Earth repairs itself as needed. Yes our polution and gases, etc are harmful and may contribute to the whole issue. It is not a direct cause but i think over time it weekens the Earth and it must repair itself doing whatever it can to rid itself of the disease. Right on! Of course, it kinda sucks for us humans that the Earth is trying to rid itself of.
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Re: Global Warming - What Do You Believe - O. T.
 Originally Posted by ISUonthemove I've heard that one volcanic eruption puts out more CO2 that the U.S. has ever emitted. If that's true, this should be the end of discussion.
Does anyone here really believe Al Gore cares this much about the enviornment? I won't be the least bit suprised if someone discovers that ol Al is on the board or a major shareholder in some company thats developing a hydrogen car or makes some floating high altitude wind farm. All this stumping by Gore is probably so he can turn around and say "Hate Global Warming? Buy a Gore-co wind turbine made of solar cells."
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Re: Global Warming - What Do You Believe - O. T.
 Originally Posted by 247cy I won't be the least bit suprised if someone discovers that ol Al is on the board or a major shareholder in some company thats developing a hydrogen car or makes some floating high altitude wind farm. All this stumping by Gore is probably so he can turn around and say "Hate Global Warming? Buy a Gore-co wind turbine made of solar cells." How about Enron? Or BP? Any movement (or media that reports it without question) that tells me that the large number of hurricanes in 2005 was caused by global warming, then comes back in 2006, and tells me that the lack of hurricanes was caused by global warming, has completely lost my trust. "He accepted everything. The past was alterable. The past had never been altered. Oceania was at war with Eastasia. Oceania had always been at war with Eastasia." George Orwell -
Re: Global Warming - What Do You Believe - O. T.
I would find the global warming argument a lot easier to believe if I didn't believe the scientists back in the 70s claiming global cooling, (Another Ice Age? Time Magazine 6/24/74).Another Ice Age? | TIME
To be sure, I am the most green person I know. I want to ring the neck of the guy that throws a cigarette butt out driving down the road. I am especially proud of Robert D Ray, our Iowa Republican Governor in 1979 for being a national leader with the can redemption law, a law that eventually spread to the other states as well.
That being said, I do believe it is stupid to dump all that carbon in the air when we could go nuclear and gas up at the electrical outlet.
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Re: Global Warming - What Do You Believe - O. T.
 Originally Posted by Splendid I would find the global warming argument a lot easier to believe if I didn't believe the scientists back in the 70s claiming global cooling, (Another Ice Age? Time Magazine 6/24/74). Another Ice Age? | TIME
To be sure, I am the most green person I know. I want to ring the neck of the guy that throws a cigarette butt out driving down the road. I am especially proud of Robert D Ray, our Iowa Republican Governor in 1979 for being a national leader with the can redemption law, a law that eventually spread to the other states as well.
That being said, I do believe it is stupid to dump all that carbon in the air when we could go nuclear and gas up at the electrical outlet. Nuclear energy would appear to be the logical solution. Of course the evils of that were a former item on the armageddonist agenda. We should be investing heavily in the safest ways to use nuclear energy, and how to dispose of the waste. -
Re: Global Warming - What Do You Believe - O. T.
 Originally Posted by Cyclonepride Nuclear energy would appear to be the logical solution. Of course the evils of that were a former item on the armageddonist agenda. We should be investing heavily in the safest ways to use nuclear energy, and how to dispose of the waste.
Iowa City....
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Re: Global Warming - What Do You Believe - O. T.
 Originally Posted by Cyclonepride Nuclear energy would appear to be the logical solution. Of course the evils of that were a former item on the armageddonist agenda. We should be investing heavily in the safest ways to use nuclear energy, and how to dispose of the waste. Nuclear is certainly better than big coal and oil burning power plants, in my opinion.
With that said, however, I don't think it is the solution. Having more nuclear power would certainly help reduce the cost of power and ease our dependency on oil and coal but doing so might cause complacency regarding research and develpment of even better clean power technologies.
But if someone forced me to pick between our existing power plants or new nuclear power to replace them, I'd have to choose nuclear.
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Re: Global Warming - What Do You Believe - O. T.
 Originally Posted by 247cy I won't be the least bit suprised if someone discovers that ol Al is on the board or a major shareholder in some company thats developing a hydrogen car or makes some floating high altitude wind farm. All this stumping by Gore is probably so he can turn around and say "Hate Global Warming? Buy a Gore-co wind turbine made of solar cells." You mean like a former Haliburton CEO that is now our VP who lead the White House task force on Energy?
Regardless of what you adhere to, I am glad this topic is being discussed, and on a sports blog no less. I think everyone would agree on a need to reduce their energy consumption. If you believe everything will work itself out ask friends and family in California how they enjoied the rolling blackouts.
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Re: Global Warming - What Do You Believe - O. T.
If we go back to Nuclear for the future, perhaps we could just put the toxic waste on board the Space Elevator and then send it into the sun. Sounds crazy, right? The Audacious Space Elevator ISU Grad 1997.
ISU Fan for Life.
Not in CO anymore but I'm not changing my name :)
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