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    Going 3 and out is unacceptable

    I put this terrible performance on the coaches. I mean, Iowa stated all week that they were focusing on stopping the run. Our first play from scrimmage we hand the ball to Arob. No fake, no misdirection, nothing. Did our coaches really think we could line up against an amped up d line and run?
    Do I think we still lose the game? Yes, but how different would it have been if we could have made a few first downs that first drive and kept the d off the field?
    Very disappointed.
    That first 3 and out set the tone for the whole game.

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    Re: Going 3 and out is unacceptable

    No, Iowa marching downfield at will on their first drive and our sloppy tackling set the tone.

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    Re: Going 3 and out is unacceptable

    So NOT running directly at Clayborn on the first play would have been a better idea?

    I agree

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    Re: Going 3 and out is unacceptable

    No doubt the game plan was very very poor on offense. Wouldn't have mattered but would have like to have seen us take what Iowa was giving us. The 4 to 5 yards pass. We didn't

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    Re: Going 3 and out is unacceptable

    I've been preaching this for years (not on here, but w/ my friends). We don't have the defensive depth to be on the field that long. Our offense doesn't always have to score but they have to get a few first downs and give our defense a break.

    Imagine if we had gotten a few first quarter first downs, punted it inside the 5. Iowa is good, but a 95 yard drive is tough for anyone.

    If we intend to "bend not break" on defense we can't continually send our defense out to try and defend a 50 or 60 yard field.

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    Re: Going 3 and out is unacceptable

    Quote Originally Posted by BigBake View Post
    No, Iowa marching downfield at will on their first drive and our sloppy tackling set the tone.
    This.
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    Re: Going 3 and out is unacceptable

    Quote Originally Posted by driegner View Post
    I've been preaching this for years (not on here, but w/ my friends). We don't have the defensive depth to be on the field that long. Our offense doesn't always have to score but they have to get a few first downs and give our defense a break.

    Imagine if we had gotten a few first quarter first downs, punted it inside the 5. Iowa is good, but a 95 yard drive is tough for anyone.

    If we intend to "bend not break" on defense we can't continually send our defense out to try and defend a 50 or 60 yard field.
    Our punters are not that good...yet.
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    Re: Going 3 and out is unacceptable

    Everyone just needs to wipe this game from their memory. We have ten games left and people are ready to call it a season. Let's think about beating K St. and not what went wrong last week.
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    Re: Going 3 and out is unacceptable

    So you expect Rhoads, who has one of the Big 12's top running backs in Robinson, to just not make a concerted effort to establish the run, all because Iowa made it a point all week that they were focusing on stopping it? If every coach did that, there'd be no need for running backs. Stopping the run is pretty much always the defense's first priority.

    Arnaud's past history against Iowa doesn't exactly lend itself to praise. For as nuts as some you are going over 3 3rd quarter INT's (when you were already down 4 TD's), I can't imagine what would have happened if he'd thrown those in the 1st quarter.

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    Re: Going 3 and out is unacceptable

    Quote Originally Posted by thegetaway View Post
    I put this terrible performance on the coaches. I mean, Iowa stated all week that they were focusing on stopping the run. Our first play from scrimmage we hand the ball to Arob. No fake, no misdirection, nothing. Did our coaches really think we could line up against an amped up d line and run?
    Do I think we still lose the game? Yes, but how different would it have been if we could have made a few first downs that first drive and kept the d off the field?
    Very disappointed.
    That first 3 and out set the tone for the whole game.
    See I feel the opposite. I thinkw e could have run if we would have tried. It seemed like our play calling was as follows for the whole first half:

    1st down - run (slow developing zone read)
    2nd down - pass attempt
    3rd down - pass attempt
    4th down - punt

    I wanted to see us run more.

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    Re: Going 3 and out is unacceptable

    Against most teams good and bad, if Iowa receives the kick off, they have a long drive that usually ends with points. The teams that stick with Iowa at least make a few first downs on the next possession. We absolutely had to take the crowd out and early. Running right at Clayborn only added fuel.
    How bout roll out AA and throw a 4-5 yard pass and get us in a favorable 2nd and 3rd down. I'm not saying AA would have completed the pass but that first play call was a joke.

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    Re: Going 3 and out is unacceptable

    Quote Originally Posted by tm3308 View Post
    So you expect Rhoads, who has one of the Big 12's top running backs in Robinson, to just not make a concerted effort to establish the run, all because Iowa made it a point all week that they were focusing on stopping it? If every coach did that, there'd be no need for running backs. Stopping the run is pretty much always the defense's first priority.

    Arnaud's past history against Iowa doesn't exactly lend itself to praise. For as nuts as some you are going over 3 3rd quarter INT's (when you were already down 4 TD's), I can't imagine what would have happened if he'd thrown those in the 1st quarter.
    The sad thing is, on one of those interceptions (the one that got picked off in front of the end zone), I'm surprised someone didn't have to haul in the bulldozer to scrape Arnaud's flattened body off the field. In retrospect, Arnaud should have at least taken the sack, if not tucked that ball and ran, but it doesn't really change the fact that Arnaud had no one to throw to all day and just four guys were rushing Arnaud into mistakes.
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    Re: Going 3 and out is unacceptable

    For those of us watching at home...you know it's going to be a long day when they introduce our offense halfway thru the second quarter....and Iowa's defense with like 5 minutes left in the half. Just wow.

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    Re: Going 3 and out is unacceptable

    Not blitzing was the worst decision of the game. Wally must think this DLine is good or something.

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    Re: Going 3 and out is unacceptable

    I thought the offense stunk all game, not on the first play, but I would have liked to see the Clones start with a short pass or two. The key is AA has to hit the receiver and the receiver has to catch the ball. I didn't see a lot of that going on in the game.

    It seemed like the defense sort of figured things out a little after half time. They still didn't tackle well, and the loss of the middle LBer was really glaring on the last long run by Adam Robinson.

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