View Poll Results: Best RB/QB combo? - Voters
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AA/A-Rob
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AA/Woody
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Tiller/A-Rob
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Tiller/Woody
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Re: Which quarterback/running back should start
 Originally Posted by ketelmeister we lost to both iowa and ksu last season too. didn't have 4 top 10 teams on the schedule last year either, plus Utah as another non-conference game.
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Re: Which quarterback/running back should start
I think AA should start....but it is sounding like he might not be 100%. Tiller needs to get a good look in the UNI game.
These next three games mean everything for the season. EVERYTHING. I really want to see us blow out UNI. If Tiller is fantastic, when he gets in and out-shines AA....even against UNI....I say give him a shot to play more against Tech, possibly start that game. (But only if it is a significant amount of time against UNI.) Really, this is Tiller's big chance to prove that he is the guy. He needs to be incredible....and if that does happen, it would be time to sit AA.
We need to crush UNI and feel good about a win again. Then, the team needs to start playing with that chip on our shoulder again and pull off two huge upsets at home against Tech and Utah now. Would be incredible wins for this program at home....and give us a chance at a bowl. Gotta win these games. Maybe Tiller's presence is what the doctor ordered? Time will tell.
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Re: Which quarterback/running back should start
 Originally Posted by heitclone People seriously want Arob benched? I don't think we need any changes in who's on the field. We just need to find ways to get the other guys on the field as well. Right now, ARob is hesitant to hit the hole or is having problem seeing the holes. There is a reason that Woody averaged 7.2 YPC last week. He sees the hole and hits it.
With that said, no way do you sit ARob. He is too valuable to the overall scheme.
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Looking forward to CFH magic for the next bball season, Georges style. -
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Re: Which quarterback/running back should start
 Originally Posted by tazclone Right now, ARob is hesitant to hit the hole or is having problem seeing the holes. There is a reason that Woody averaged 7.2 YPC last week. He sees the hole and hits it.
With that said, no way do you sit ARob. He is too valuable to the overall scheme. ARob is running the same as he always has. He is a patient back and that is how he runs. He did the same last year.
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Re: Which quarterback/running back should start
 Originally Posted by isuno1fan ARob is running the same as he always has. He is a patient back and that is how he runs. He did the same last year. - One thing I noticed watching the games again and again is ARob is missing holes. He did this at the beginning of last season as well and got much better as the season went on. He needs to see the holes a little better.
- Our OL isn't producing as big of holes as last year and they are not holding them for as long as last year. Therefore, they need to be hit quicker. That is the reason Woody had a higher average. He gets the ball and gets upfield.
- I am not saying that ARob should be benched, he is too valuable. But there is a reason that Woody was in for the first part of that drive that started at 6:47 against KSU. There is also a good reason that when we got to throwing the ball ARob came back in.
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Re: Which quarterback/running back should start
 Originally Posted by AlleyAddict Tiller and A-Rob.
what about tiller, woody, and put arob and shontrell sp? johnson in the slot or behind woody and have them still run routes out of the backfield. thats my pick.
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I just don't get how Arnaud gets all the blame for our offensive woes. The line has been horrible at times, the wideouts have played average at best and ARob has been less than stellar (and we can't blame it on injuries this year). It's been a collective crappy group effort thus far, minus Franklin. I just don't see how sitting the team leader and blaming him for everything is going to solve that problem.
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Every one of these is a great idea and should be implemented without fail.
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Re: Which quarterback/running back should start
 Originally Posted by ketelmeister AA has to bring his A game to UNI, but I'm not for pulling the plug on him. Too much time invested, and we still have bowl chances. I agree with your statement except for the Bold statement. If the time invested is the reason that AA is playing then our coaching staff is much worse than I thought (I am not suggesting that this is the case).
AA should only start/play if the staff feels that he gives our team the best chance to win, period. If that is the case fine I trust them as they see the practice and know what is going on but if he starts because there is too much time invested or some other BS then I think that only hurts the team.
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Re: Which quarterback/running back should start
AA should start with ARob unless they're going at 50% due to injury.
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This is AA's team and he should start, barring injury.
That being said, considering the role of our QB in this offense, we should have been using Tiller at least one or two series per game, minimum. When you rely on the QB running a fair amount, you are only one play away from having to go to the 2nd string player out of necessity.
No. Illinois game - I believe Tiller could have had 1 series per half.
Iowa game - Tiller should have had 3 series toward the end of the game
KSU - Tiller came in out of necessity, but AA came back & time was limited. Also, AA has displayed the ability to take the team the length of the field at the end of games with little time on the clock (UNLV, KU, others), & he damn near pulled it off. So, KSU game went as it should.
I have high hopes for Tiller and believe he could be our Colin Kaepernick (QB now @ Nevada) with continued dilligence & improvement on his part. Tall & rangy, but with deceptive speed (when you are tall & have long strides, you do not appear fast as your feet are not quite the blur of the little RBs, but then everyone says after a big run, "How did he get by them?") and (hopefully) sufficient accuracy throwing the ball.
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Re: Which quarterback/running back should start
 Originally Posted by BigLame This is AA's team and he should start, barring injury.
That being said, considering the role of our QB in this offense, we should have been using Tiller at least one or two series per game, minimum. When you rely on the QB running a fair amount, you are only one play away from having to go to the 2nd string player out of necessity.
No. Illinois game - I believe Tiller could have had 1 series per half.
Iowa game - Tiller should have had 3 series toward the end of the game
KSU - Tiller came in out of necessity, but AA came back & time was limited. Also, AA has displayed the ability to take the team the length of the field at the end of games with little time on the clock (UNLV, KU, others), & he damn near pulled it off. So, KSU game went as it should.
I have high hopes for Tiller and believe he could be our Colin Kaepernick (QB now @ Nevada) with continued dilligence & improvement on his part. Tall & rangy, but with deceptive speed (when you are tall & have long strides, you do not appear fast as your feet are not quite the blur of the little RBs, but then everyone says after a big run, "How did he get by them?") and (hopefully) sufficient accuracy throwing the ball.
Nice, a very good and thought out post here.
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Re: Which quarterback/running back should start
 Originally Posted by tazclone ...no way do you sit ARob. He is too valuable to the overall scheme. Exactly. In fact, if AA could have been a little more accurate and hit ARob on that wide open shot down the field, the guy becomes our biggest hero this week. Without a downfield threat in the passing game, ARob is going to struggle. He has the break away speed, but can't get to the next level because there are just too many people up close the the line. As far as QB goes? I think AA hasn't been playing well at all, but I'm always hesitant to look at the back up QB as the solution to all of a teams woes. I have a bad feeling that our offensive production goes deeper than just one or 2 players.
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