TILLER!

**ItsCyence** · 09-25-2010, 10:41 PM

Originally Posted by CycloneYoda

Excuses. Are you planning on being Arnaud's agent?

You try to learn 3 different play books from different coaches. The terminology used in each play book is probably 90%+ different than the previous. It's not something that is just picked up and ran perfectly. Heck my high school play book is difficult to learn. Can you tell me me what a "Wing 7 Hook-Slash-Seam" is? These are what high school plays are. Now imagine college football terminology. Also let alone the calls pre-snap a QB has to make. It ain't easy.

**cy616** · 09-25-2010, 10:44 PM

Anyone saying Tiller and AA are equal after tonight is either delusional or trying to defend earlier comments. Austen may not be great, but he is substantially more accurate than Tiller and makes better reads in the run game.

**cyatheart** · 09-25-2010, 10:44 PM

Originally Posted by clonedude

Just remember... UNI gives up over 300 yds passing EVERY game. Tiller put up 90.

Now tell me how good he is?

At this rate, does Tom Herman still have a job next year? You almost can't try to be this unproductive. It's unreal.

Yeah, let's switch systems again. Great idea. We need continuity, we cannot keep switching systems every 2 years. That will make it worse, not better.

**Tre4ISU** · 09-25-2010, 10:45 PM

Originally Posted by CycloneYoda

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

This line is perfect in describing our current QB situation.

Nope, not even similar. Arnaud put up much better numbers against much tougher teams. Tiller did basically nothing against a bad secondary. Period. You also can't separate fact from excuse. It actually amazes me that you hire anyone with the kind of logic you use. Remind me not to contact you when I look to hire. I don't hire people who can't think logically or at least rationally. I don't like whiners either.

**jbhtexas** · 09-25-2010, 10:47 PM

We have this...

Originally Posted by ISUFan22

The receivers are not consistently getting open at all.

And then we have this...

Originally Posted by gocubs2118

Tiller should have thrown a TD to Lenz except he underthrew it by about 5 yards and it nearly got picked off. Tiller should have thrown another TD to Darks who was WIDE open and Tiller overthrew him.

Originally Posted by cybsball20

He also had two guys wide open on the sidelines that he overthrew by a good 20 feet.

Hmmm...

**ISUFan22** · 09-25-2010, 10:48 PM

Originally Posted by jbhtexas

We have this...

And then we have this...

Hmmm...

Key word, consistently. See also, reading and comprehension.

**RING4CY** · 09-25-2010, 10:48 PM

The ONE thing Tiller deserves credit for tonight is that fact that he didn't turn the ball over. That said, he has a lot of improving to do before he's ready to be a full-time starting quarterback.

**jdoggivjc** · 09-25-2010, 10:48 PM

Originally Posted by clonedude

Just remember... UNI gives up over 300 yds passing EVERY game. Tiller put up 90.

Now tell me how good he is?

At this rate, does Tom Herman still have a job next year? You almost can't try to be this unproductive. It's unreal.

I think before you can answer this question, the question you have to ask is, is the playcalling this "inept" simply because the talent is that inept, or is he simply that inept? My guess is Hermann looks inept simply because he cannot open up the offense with the players he has. If our WRs cannot gain separation against the DBs that UNI had, how is he supposed to call up plays for a downfield passing game? It just doesn't add up. I mean, we're lucky that ARob can get the yards he's able to get with the defenses stacking the box against the run. With our WRs that inept at gaining separation from the DBs, they don't have to commit extra players to the passing game.

**RedBlooded** · 09-25-2010, 10:48 PM

I am so tired of you babies crying about how Arnaud has had to learn 3 play books. He is a Big 12 QB, if he cant learn the system he shouldn't play.

**jdoggivjc** · 09-25-2010, 10:49 PM

Originally Posted by RING4CY

The ONE thing Tiller deserves credit for tonight is that fact that he didn't turn the ball over. That said, he has a lot of improving to do before he's ready to be a full-time starting quarterback.

How many times did Arnaud turn the ball over last week? That's what I thought...

**mwitt** · 09-25-2010, 10:49 PM

Arnaud is in his second season in this offense, and some of you are trying to say that he's getting confused because he had to learn Barney Cotton's offense when he redshirted 4 years ago. Got ya.

**mwitt** · 09-25-2010, 10:49 PM

Originally Posted by jdoggivjc

How many times did Arnaud turn the ball over last week? That's what I thought...

What is your point?

**jdoggivjc** · 09-25-2010, 10:50 PM

Originally Posted by RedBlooded

I am so tired of you babies crying about how Arnaud has had to learn 3 play books. He is a Big 12 QB, if he cant learn the system he shouldn't play.

How many Big 12 QBs had to learn a new playbook every other year? That's right - NONE. Perhaps that's why every other school in the Big 12 has a stable QB situation.

**jdoggivjc** · 09-25-2010, 10:52 PM

Originally Posted by mwitt

What is your point?

Why does Tiller get "credit" for not committing any turnovers this week, when Arnaud did the same last week, but the fans were practically ready to revoke his scholarship because he overthrew ARob in the final minutes (funny how Tiller overthrew a receiver earlier in the K-State game and all anyone could say is "look at the 'touch' on that pass")?

IMO you can't have it both ways.