Arnaud?

**GoShow97** · 10-01-2010, 04:24 PM

Originally Posted by dzmetcalf

Tiller did not win us the Nebraska game, our defense and Nebraska's offense won us the Nebraska game.

Really?

Please show me where I stated that Tiller won the Nebraska game.

By the same account he didn't loose it either.

Point being, ISU has demonstrated in the past that it can win with out AA at QB.

**GoShow97** · 10-01-2010, 04:32 PM

Originally Posted by jdoggivjc

You've never had a shoulder injury before, have you? Everyone here would be best served if you would just shut your cake hole, but that's probably too difficult for you...

Because ISU's defense had nothing to do with Tiller's victories against UNI or Nebraska. Oh wait - it had EVERYTHING to do with Tiller's two victories. If ISU's defense plays like it did against A&M (which you conveniently always leave out of the argument because it's damaging to your case), Tiller is sitting at 0-3.

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Please tell me what case I am trying to make. What do I conviently ALWAYS leave out. Please show me any other post where I have discussed anything about Tiller until this thread. PLEASE SHOW ME.

The simple fact of the matter is that ISU has demonstrated that it can win without AA at QB. It's as simple as that. Quit trying to make more out of it. No one said Tiller won these games soley on him being in the game. Keep trying to spin reality. ISU has won 2 games with Tiller in as QB. FACT.

**justcynn** · 10-01-2010, 04:53 PM

Only one time that I recall was a freshman 3rd sring better than the 1, His name was Troy Davis. Not impossible that Capello is the best guy to play but I'll stick with the coaches on this. New Fanatic math: 1 is greater than 2 but less than 3

**isuforlife** · 10-01-2010, 05:05 PM

Originally Posted by yaman3

Punctuation and capitalization are your friend.

English major huh

**isuforlife** · 10-01-2010, 05:07 PM

Originally Posted by cycloneG

You may be ready to give up on the season but I'm not and I'm sure no one associated with the football team is either. We're 4 games in and sitting at .500 and people think the season is lost. There is more to the football season than the Iowa game.

You might want to look at the schedule

**synapticwave** · 10-01-2010, 05:19 PM

Originally Posted by isuforlife

You might want to look at the schedule

That's the spirit....let's just forfeit now so no one gets hurt. Heck next year's schedule will be tough too, maybe we shouldn't play in the Big12 anymore, let's just join the MAC and while we're at it, let's forfeit the 2010-11 Men's basketball season too so we're ready for 2011.

**FDCy83** · 10-01-2010, 05:46 PM

I look at how JT played Saturday and compare it to UI last year vs Northwestern. Stanzi went out and backup came in who was not ready to play. UI lost. Next week, same backup played a great game against OSU. Tiller knew AA was going to start and no one expected AA to only play 1 series. Even if JT knew he might play or would play some, the preperation is not the same. The Nebraska game last year, JT knew he would play, and JT played well enough to win. He did throw a TD pass. Remember, Nebraska did have a pretty good defense last year, so to "not lose" that game was an accomplishment. I don't see how it is not losing when you throw a TD pass.

If AA is ready and able to play, I expect he will and we will need the experience. If he is not able to play, I hope JT has prepared well enough to win this week as well. I get tired of the constant posts about how we will not win another game. We had those last year after the KSU game, and we did manage to win more.

If Capello is ready and better than AA or JT, I do not doubt that PR will play him. PR does not seem to play favorites, only the guys he thinks give us the best chance to win. That is what he is paid to do.

**jdoggivjc** · 10-01-2010, 05:54 PM

Originally Posted by GoShow97

Please tell me what case I am trying to make. What do I conviently ALWAYS leave out. Please show me any other post where I have discussed anything about Tiller until this thread. PLEASE SHOW ME.

The simple fact of the matter is that ISU has demonstrated that it can win without AA at QB. It's as simple as that. Quit trying to make more out of it. No one said Tiller won these games soley on him being in the game. Keep trying to spin reality. ISU has won 2 games with Tiller in as QB. FACT.

The case you always try to make is the awesomeness of Tiller

The things you conveniently leave out is Tiller mostly had little to nothing to do with the wins, and absolutely sucked against A&M, to the point where he was detrimental.

Of course I don't expect you to pay attention to this and we'll be having this same discussion next week the next time you insist that Tiller should be starting, even if/when he totally sucks *** tomorrow...

**jdoggivjc** · 10-01-2010, 05:56 PM

Originally Posted by FDCy83

I look at how JT played Saturday and compare it to UI last year vs Northwestern. Stanzi went out and backup came in who was not ready to play. UI lost. Next week, same backup played a great game against OSU. Tiller knew AA was going to start and no one expected AA to only play 1 series. Even if JT knew he might play or would play some, the preperation is not the same. The Nebraska game last year, JT knew he would play, and JT played well enough to win. He did throw a TD pass. Remember, Nebraska did have a pretty good defense last year, so to "not lose" that game was an accomplishment. I don't see how it is not losing when you throw a TD pass.

The only problem with your comparison is last year was probably Iowa's backup QB's first time on the field. Last Saturday was far from Tiller's first rodeo.

**isuforlife** · 10-01-2010, 06:23 PM

Originally Posted by synapticwave

That's the spirit....let's just forfeit now so no one gets hurt. Heck next year's schedule will be tough too, maybe we shouldn't play in the Big12 anymore, let's just join the MAC and while we're at it, let's forfeit the 2010-11 Men's basketball season too so we're ready for 2011.

**GoShow97** · 10-01-2010, 10:04 PM

Originally Posted by jdoggivjc

The case you always try to make is the awesomeness of Tiller

The things you conveniently leave out is Tiller mostly had little to nothing to do with the wins, and absolutely sucked against A&M, to the point where he was detrimental.

Of course I don't expect you to pay attention to this and we'll be having this same discussion next week the next time you insist that Tiller should be starting, even if/when he totally sucks *** tomorrow...

Please show me one post, just one where I have said this. Just one post.
You talk a bunch of crap of what you think I have posted, , but please show me.
Again, you can't. Quit trying to make something out of nothing.

What, are you still ****** about the endzone not being bowled in.