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    Re: Still not sold on Oklahoma

    Quote Originally Posted by alarson View Post
    We'll beat oklahoma, and texas. And then turn around and lose the rest of our games.
    Why wouldn't this surprise me?

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    Re: Still not sold on Oklahoma

    The problem with Oklahoma allowing teams back in the game in the 2nd half is if we cannot hold them close in the 1st half.

    A talented team coming off a bye and playing at home. It will be tough sledding from the get go.

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    Re: Still not sold on Oklahoma

    Quote Originally Posted by CyCloned View Post
    I am not sold of OU as a national contender, but they will kick the crap out of ISU. The thing that I have never understood about OU under Stoops is that they will look great during the season and get into a BCS bowl game and then lay an egg. It is almost like when every other team is getting ready for the bowl game, OU is out drinking beer and chasing woman.
    Now there is confidence! ISU will not get killed, I actually see this game tight going into the fourth quarter.

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    Re: Still not sold on Oklahoma

    Quote Originally Posted by hawkeyescott View Post
    Here are the numbers you should worry about:

    ISU 63rd rushing offense v. Oklahoma 79th rushing D
    ISU 96th passing offense v. Oklahoma 51st passing efficiency D
    ISU 69th scoring offense v. Oklahoma 56th scoring D
    ISU 93rd total offense v. Oklahoma 93rd total D

    Oklahoma 90th rushing offense v. ISU 102nd rushing D
    Oklahoma 17th passing offense v. ISU 72nd passing efficiency D
    Oklahoma 38th scoring offense v. ISU 88th scoring D
    Oklahoma 40th total offense v. ISU 97th total D

    Oklahoma is down on D this year and ISU can score points on them, but on the other hand Oklahoma is going to score a lot as well.
    This is a great post hawkeye scott!!! It shows what I am talking about. Both Oklahoma and ISU have played tough schedules, with ISU's being tougher, but statistically they are not far off. It isn't like OU has been dominating at home this year either.
    OU could very well come off their bye refreshed and looking to make a point and curb stomp us but they don't look like the dominating OU that we have seen in the past.

    Again, I am not predicting anything but a loss. But my point is OU was nothing more than an 8-5 team last year and they have done nothing to prove they are a BCS championship type team this year.
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    Re: Still not sold on Oklahoma

    If there is one thing about Rhoads, he knows how to coach kids out of situations where there back is against the wall.

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    Re: Still not sold on Oklahoma

    Quote Originally Posted by RavenousUte View Post
    To be honest Utah was a totally different creature and atypical compared to Big XII programs...

    I hear a lot of never's and always lose's... if you ever want that cycle to end there has to be a first and honestly OU and Texas look a lot more probable upsets than Nebraska this year.

    I don't think I am being delusional when I say you can steal one of these two games...

    Just please stop with the absolute negative statements and try a "I think it's not probable, but definitely possible"...
    I would agree with you if we were at Texas or Oklahoma was at Jack Trice.
    Unfortunately Okie is all but unbeatable at home. Stoops is something like 66-2 in Norman and has the longest home winning streak in the nation.
    You can almost make "losing in Norman" a college football rule. Teams just do not win there.
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    Re: Still not sold on Oklahoma

    Quote Originally Posted by tazclone View Post
    This is a great post hawkeye scott!!! It shows what I am talking about. Both Oklahoma and ISU have played tough schedules, with ISU's being tougher, but statistically they are not far off. It isn't like OU has been dominating at home this year either.
    OU could very well come off their bye refreshed and looking to make a point and curb stomp us but they don't look like the dominating OU that we have seen in the past.

    Again, I am not predicting anything but a loss. But my point is OU was nothing more than an 8-5 team last year and they have done nothing to prove they are a BCS championship type team this year.
    Or OU could come off their bye rusty like Utah was in the 1st quarter, maybe even the entire first half...

    It's possible!!

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    Re: Still not sold on Oklahoma

    Quote Originally Posted by tazclone View Post
    This is a great post hawkeye scott!!! It shows what I am talking about. Both Oklahoma and ISU have played tough schedules, with ISU's being tougher, but statistically they are not far off. It isn't like OU has been dominating at home this year either.
    OU could very well come off their bye refreshed and looking to make a point and curb stomp us but they don't look like the dominating OU that we have seen in the past.

    Again, I am not predicting anything but a loss. But my point is OU was nothing more than an 8-5 team last year and they have done nothing to prove they are a BCS championship type team this year.
    Actually, Oklahoma has had the tougher schedule thus far.

    Oklahoma is kind of the antithesis of Utah right now. Won a lot of close games against pretty good competition, but not looked very good doing it.

    Of Oklahoma, Texas, and Nebraska, I'd say we have the best chance against Oklahoma, because they have apparently a much weaker defense than Texas or Nebraska. However, we won't score a ton so we'll probably need to keep Oklahoma under 30 to even have a chance.

    As the Ute fan said, not probable, but definitely possible.

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    Re: Still not sold on Oklahoma

    Quote Originally Posted by alarson View Post
    We'll beat oklahoma, and texas. And then turn around and lose the rest of our games.
    Only a true Cyclones fan could imagine that sort of yin-yang.

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    Re: Still not sold on Oklahoma

    Quote Originally Posted by cyclones500 View Post
    Only a true Cyclones fan could imagine that sort of yin-yang.
    Not making a bowl after going 3-0 in our south rotation... yeah, that sounds about right.

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    Re: Still not sold on Oklahoma

    Quote Originally Posted by ahaselhu View Post
    Actually, Oklahoma has had the tougher schedule thus far.

    Oklahoma is kind of the antithesis of Utah right now. Won a lot of close games against pretty good competition, but not looked very good doing it.

    Of Oklahoma, Texas, and Nebraska, I'd say we have the best chance against Oklahoma, because they have apparently a much weaker defense than Texas or Nebraska. However, we won't score a ton so we'll probably need to keep Oklahoma under 30 to even have a chance.

    As the Ute fan said, not probable, but definitely possible.
    You think? Here is my take

    Utah>FSU
    Iowa>Texas
    KSU=Air Force
    Utah St>NIU
    Cincy>UNI

    Rankings tend to back tha up. You could probably switch Utah St and Cincy but it wouldn't matter. Plus we played UNI with our back up QB.
    Last edited by tazclone; 10-13-2010 at 02:44 PM.
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    Re: Still not sold on Oklahoma

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyhart View Post
    I would agree with you if we were at Texas or Oklahoma was at Jack Trice.
    Unfortunately Okie is all but unbeatable at home. Stoops is something like 66-2 in Norman and has the longest home winning streak in the nation.
    You can almost make "losing in Norman" a college football rule. Teams just do not win there.
    Air Force almost won there this year, they lost bye 3. Utah State almost won there in 2010, they lost by 7.

    I could probably almost guarantee that Oregon, Stanford, Boise, TCU, Utah, Nevada, Oregon St., Arizona and Cal would win there based on those 2 games.

    OU struggled with Texas... UCLA the 9th best (worst) team in the Pac-10 decimated Texas @Austin. Officially, UCLA and Wash. St are the only two teams out of Pac-10 title contention, WSU being slightly worse.

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    Re: Still not sold on Oklahoma

    See I think we have a better shot against Texas. They have no running game, will likely be coming off a complete rout in Lincoln, and will be on a three game skid.

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    Re: Still not sold on Oklahoma

    Quote Originally Posted by tazclone View Post
    You think? Here is my take

    Utah>FSU
    Iowa>Texas
    KSU=Air Force
    Utah St>NIU
    Cincy>UNI

    Rankings tend to back tha up. You could probably switch Utah St and Cincy but it wouldn't matter. Plus we played UNI with our back up QB.
    I would put UNI over Utah State and Cincy.

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    Re: Still not sold on Oklahoma

    Quote Originally Posted by RavenousUte View Post
    Air Force almost won there this year, they lost bye 3. Utah State almost won there in 2010, they lost by 7.

    I could probably almost guarantee that Oregon, Stanford, Boise, TCU, Utah, Nevada, Oregon St., Arizona and Cal would win there based on those 2 games.

    OU struggled with Texas... UCLA the 9th best (worst) team in the Pac-10 decimated Texas @Austin. Officially, UCLA and Wash. St are the only two teams out of Pac-10 title contention, WSU being slightly worse.
    I like where your head is at! I do. But "almost" only counts in horseshoes and hand-grenades.

    And I wish daisy-chaining like that was a legit way to look at things. But it doesnt work like that. It doesnt take into account a whole host of factors.
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