Cyclones 17-point dogs to Nebraska

**vike71** · 10-31-2010, 09:48 PM

Originally Posted by Wesley

The key will be no interceptions for us and ability to keep Martinez from running. I think Helu just had one great day.

Yeah, he did indeed have one great day, but he has had others. Roy Helu Jr. averaged 11 yards per carry (on 28 carries) against the #6 rated team in the land, but he has also averaged 11 ypc against Washington, 11.9 ypc against Idaho and 13.8 ypc against Kansas State.

The Cyclones yielded 4.05 yards per carry to Kansas' running backs, the 77th best rushing attack in college football. Helu is averaging 7.9 ypc so far this season and Nebraska has the 6th best rushing attack in college football.

17 points is too low.

**dualthreat** · 10-31-2010, 09:54 PM

Iowa State has played 3 top 10 teams this season. Here is how they went:

Outscored 155-34

Average of 52-11 (-41)

I imagine this is what most of the non Iowa State fans will be looking at when they see this game.

Iowa State fans will point out:

9-7
Iowa State > Texas > Nebraska
Jack Trice Stadium

**Covenant Clone** · 10-31-2010, 09:54 PM

Originally Posted by vike71

Yeah, he did indeed have one great day, but he has had others. Roy Helu Jr. averaged 11 yards per carry (on 28 carries) against the #6 rated team in the land, but he has also averaged 11 ypc against Washington, 11.9 ypc against Idaho and 13.8 ypc against Kansas State.

The Cyclones yielded 4.05 yards per carry to Kansas' running backs, the 77th best rushing attack in college football. Helu is averaging 7.9 ypc so far this season and Nebraska has the 6th best rushing attack in college football.

17 points is too low.

Not sure where you got that stat but according to the official game stats on cyclones.com we gave up 2.8 yards per carry. Not saying Helu won't tear us up but we played pretty well against the run (and overall) this week.

**vike71** · 10-31-2010, 10:18 PM

Originally Posted by Covenant Clone

Not sure where you got that stat but according to the official game stats on cyclones.com we gave up 2.8 yards per carry. Not saying Helu won't tear us up but we played pretty well against the run (and overall) this week.

ISU gave up 2.8 yards rushing overall, which includes QB sacks, etc, but I specifically singled out Kansas' RBs. Angus Quigley averaged 4.9 ypc on 14 attempts. North Dakota State held him to 2.1 ypc.

**UNIGuy4Cy** · 10-31-2010, 10:21 PM

This team was dominated by Texas, Im not sure how. We turn around and dominate Texas. With Wally on our side there is always a chance. Is there any conclusive evidence on the status of TMagicless?

**UNIGuy4Cy** · 10-31-2010, 10:24 PM

Originally Posted by vike71

ISU gave up 2.8 yards rushing overall, which includes QB sacks, etc, but I specifically singled out Kansas' RBs. Angus Quigley averaged 4.9 ypc on 14 attempts. North Dakota State held him to 2.1 ypc.

I have to ask were you at the game? They gave up 60 yards to these guys in the GARBAGE time, ISU was up 28-9 and had 3rd stringers in by the 8 minute mark of the fourth. KU did jack **** against our #1's, even though we turned the ball over at our own 20 and also gave them the ball at our own 40 after going for it on 4th down.

**CykoAGR** · 10-31-2010, 10:26 PM

If Mexi-Jesus (as Martinez was called on WRNL) is healthy then this is too low. We have trouble stopping the run when we know who it is coming from (see KSU early in the year), if Martinez plays he will cause us some BIG problems.

If Lee or whoever NU's backup is starts I think that ISU has a chance in this one. I know that Helu had a big day against MU but it was one day.

I would expect this to move depending on Martinez's inury status as the week goes on.

**Covenant Clone** · 10-31-2010, 10:35 PM

Originally Posted by vike71

ISU gave up 2.8 yards rushing overall, which includes QB sacks, etc, but I specifically singled out Kansas' RBs. Angus Quigley averaged 4.9 ypc on 14 attempts. North Dakota State held him to 2.1 ypc.

So he popped a couple of decent runs on a play we didn't defend very well in the first half. We made an adjustment at half and completely shut it down in the second half. Again not saying Helu isn't going to put up 200+ on us but just wanted to point out the whole statistical picture. The D played well, can't take that away from them.

**vike71** · 10-31-2010, 10:39 PM

Originally Posted by UNIGuy4Cy

I have to ask were you at the game? They gave up 60 yards to these guys in the GARBAGE time, ISU was up 28-9 and had 3rd stringers in by the 8 minute mark of the fourth. KU did jack **** against our #1's, even though we turned the ball over at our own 20 and also gave them the ball at our own 40 after going for it on 4th down.

You know, you're right. I was in error. So, are you saying that stopping the vaunted KU rushing attack means the Clones will have a chance against Nebraska? Or beating a Texas team that also lost badly at home to a now 3-5 UCLA? What, besides Kool-ade, makes people think that the Nebraska game will turn out any different than the three previous games against top ten teams?

Ask yourself this: Do you think Nebraska would beat Iowa??? Methinks most out there think they would. If you think NU would beat the team that got to play their reserves against ISU, what makes you think ISU would beat them? Or would Iowa beat Nebraska? Either way I think it would be a competitive game.

Just trying to be realistic.

**UNIGuy4Cy** · 10-31-2010, 10:48 PM

Originally Posted by vike71

You know, you're right. I was in error. So, are you saying that stopping the vaunted KU rushing attack means the Clones will have a chance against Nebraska? Or beating a Texas team that also lost badly at home to a now 3-5 UCLA? What, besides Kool-ade, makes people think that the Nebraska game will turn out any different than the three previous games against top ten teams?

Ask yourself this: Do you think Nebraska would beat Iowa??? Methinks most out there think they would. If you think NU would beat the team that got to play their reserves against ISU, what makes you think ISU would beat them? Or would Iowa beat Nebraska? Either way I think it would be a competitive game.

Just trying to be realistic.

I agree with you analysis on the NU game, but not on the KU game. KU and NU are not even close talent wise and I agree with that, but I was just correcting you on how we actually did against KU. Will NU be tougher? Yes. Can we beat them? Yes. Just remember two two weeks ago they were dominated by Texas.

**vike71** · 10-31-2010, 11:09 PM

Originally Posted by UNIGuy4Cy

I agree with you analysis on the NU game, but not on the KU game. KU and NU are not even close talent wise and I agree with that, but I was just correcting you on how we actually did against KU. Will NU be tougher? Yes. Can we beat them? Yes. Just remember two two weeks ago they were dominated by Texas.

I beg to differ that Texas "dominated" Nebraska. They only won by 7 points and only outgained them by 69 total yards (271-202). Nebraska had 10 penalties in that game for 94 yards and a turnover. Texas played a good game, but it seems to me more like Nebraska shot themselves in the foot more. There was a LOT of emotion in that game and Texas rose to the occasion. I don't think anyone doubts that Texas was highly motivated to win that game.

Speaking of motivation, emotion and shooting yourself in the foot, like being embarrassed at home by giving up 8 turnovers...

Is Nebraska on par with OU, Iowa and Utah??? If yes, why will this game turn out any different?

**HFCS** · 11-01-2010, 12:21 AM

Originally Posted by vike71

ISU gave up 2.8 yards rushing overall, which includes QB sacks, etc, but I specifically singled out Kansas' RBs. Angus Quigley averaged 4.9 ypc on 14 attempts. North Dakota State held him to 2.1 ypc.

It's pretty obvious you didn't follow the ISU/KU game. Can't blame you for not watching since it wasn't televised. But I can blame you for shooting your mouth off when you're completely ignorant about the game.

ISU held KU to 9 points and no touchdowns until their 3rd and 4th stringers were in the game on defense.

Typical pompous Husker fan.

**flycy** · 11-01-2010, 12:59 AM

Originally Posted by vike71

You know, you're right. I was in error. So, are you saying that stopping the vaunted KU rushing attack means the Clones will have a chance against Nebraska? Or beating a Texas team that also lost badly at home to a now 3-5 UCLA? What, besides Kool-ade, makes people think that the Nebraska game will turn out any different than the three previous games against top ten teams?

Ask yourself this: Do you think Nebraska would beat Iowa??? Methinks most out there think they would. If you think NU would beat the team that got to play their reserves against ISU, what makes you think ISU would beat them? Or would Iowa beat Nebraska? Either way I think it would be a competitive game.

Just trying to be realistic.

The same Texas team that beat Nebraska and got Martinez benched just a week earlier? And yes, I think Iowa may very well beat Nebraska going away. Should Nebraska be heavily favored, yes they should, just like last year. Nebraska has the better players, but I am convinced we have the better coaches. We'll see what wins out this year. Realistic doesn't mean you have to belittle the team or almost wish for them to loose so you can be proven right.

**flycy** · 11-01-2010, 01:02 AM

Originally Posted by vike71

I beg to differ that Texas "dominated" Nebraska. They only won by 7 points and only outgained them by 69 total yards (271-202). Nebraska had 10 penalties in that game for 94 yards and a turnover. Texas played a good game, but it seems to me more like Nebraska shot themselves in the foot more. There was a LOT of emotion in that game and Texas rose to the occasion. I don't think anyone doubts that Texas was highly motivated to win that game.

Speaking of motivation, emotion and shooting yourself in the foot, like being embarrassed at home by giving up 8 turnovers...

Is Nebraska on par with OU, Iowa and Utah??? If yes, why will this game turn out any different?

Bo ball seems to be riddled with times they shot themselves in the foot. Try 8 turnovers. An the game may turn out differently because it is a different day. Any given day.

**BlackHawk** · 11-01-2010, 01:17 AM

Originally Posted by HandSanitizer

I do think we will need a very nice day from A and A....
Plus 3+ TO advantage.
Then we win.

6-4 with CU and Mizz remaining.
Have a nice night.

Would be pretty sweet and easy sleeping that night! Hoping for a Fusker letdown instead of a ****** off Nebby. Containing Martinez will be key, along with winning the TO margin. Really think we have to be +3 in that category to have a chance.