Colorado game = worst game of CPR era?

[jdoggivjc]

Good post, but did you really assume that Chizik has a heart?

Yeah, I actually do think he has a heart. It just never left Auburn - he didn't take it with him when he left to be the DC at Texas, much less HC at ISU.

[aeroclone]

This may have been the worst game I have seen from us in 5 or 6 years. I don't remember being this disappointed in an ISU football team since we blew the KU and Mizzou games to finish the season back when the Big 12 North title was on the line. Or perhaps when we gave Baylor their first Big 12 road win ever.

Sure, if we go beat Mizzou that will really take the sting out, but we went out as a favorite in that game, against a winless team with an interim head coach, with bowl eligibility on the line in a season where most of the experts had us with 3 wins and dead last in the league. And we got crushed. We didn't even compete. Sure we had a lead early on, but even at that point we were being outplayed on both sides of the ball. Jake Knott looked like the only guy on the team that even wanted to be playing football that day.

CPR had said before the game it may be the biggest for him so far at ISU, and we came out the flattest we have in years. I could have lived with a loss. We struggle at Boulder, and I thought the team may rally around the new coach. They do have some talent on their sideline. But if we did lose it, I was hoping it was just because they got a couple bounces, or just executed a little better than us, not because our entire team failed to show up.

That showing on Saturday was disgusting, and if this program is truly going to change the culture and turn things around, games like that just can't happen.

[ISUCyclone06]

I believe that game 2 years ago ended 28-24 so we were in it and gave ourselves a shot. But this year is different there is more on the line and I believe our players know that... not sure where that was this week but I'm on to Missouri now.

[NobodyBeatsCy]

We also had a head coach who was already daydreaming about wearing navy and orange while strolling the sidelines of a larger stadium in a warmer climate, all while being "firmly entrenched" on the ISU sideline.

If you believe Cheezydick hadn't mentally checked out of ISU before coaching the Mizzou game, I'd believe you're sorely mistaken.

We may lose Saturday, but it won't be because CPR is "lame-ducking" this game with his heart already at a different location.

I did not bring Chizik into this or compare him to CPR - you did. I will say that Chizik did not lose the game that night on his own. Maybe factored 10% into it. All I was pointing out was that the previous poster thought those factors helped us. They do not

[brother bob]

worst game - possibly

the question I pose to you is: Are you really a fan of Cyclone Football?

I've read post after post of questions/comments during this season by people on this website and they seem to be more and more negative after each loss (understandably so) but for anyone to actually count this team out without giving them a chance on Saturday just blows my mind!

Were you one of those people who back in late September early October who wanted Tiller as the starting QB? Did you expect at the beginning of the season for this team to have a snowball's chance in Austin, TX of beating a texas team or even taking a first place top ten nebby into overtime with a chance to win? Or for the fact that this team actually did this?

Coach Rhoads and his staff have done far more this season than I, or anyone else thought possible with the schedule they had and I believe that this staff will have this team well focused for Saturday nights game with missouri. I count them out - NEVER! Why should you?

Be proud - Be a fan - NEVER GIVE UP!

GO CYCLONES!

[ISUCyclone06]

They surely do help us. Wind will even out the game, a game we will once again as most of the season be outmanned. Gibbert is a good quarterback with good receivers, you take away or hamper that throwing game and you close the talent gap. To say the atmosphere and weather does not help us is ludacris.

[jdoggivjc]

I did not bring Chizik into this or compare him to CPR - you did. I will say that Chizik did not lose the game that night on his own. Maybe factored 10% into it. All I was pointing out was that the previous poster thought those factors helped us. They do not

The last Missouri game at home 2 years ago was one game left, a home game, Senior night and was a very cold windy night. We were thumped

Kind of hard NOT to bring Chizik into it when you bring up the last game of his tenure at ISU, when it was clear he had mentally checked out despite how "firmly entrenched" he was. Yeah, not many others showed up for that game, either. But if Chizik's head isn't in the game, do you really think anyone else's is going to be?

[NobodyBeatsCy]

I believe that game 2 years ago ended 28-24 so we were in it and gave ourselves a shot. But this year is different there is more on the line and I believe our players know that... not sure where that was this week but I'm on to Missouri now.

The result that night was Missouri 52 - ISU 20

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[ca4cy]

Never has a Paul Rhoads coached team came out as unprepared and unemotional against a team with similar talent. Outcoached and outplayed. CPR is all about passion, if he can bring that 12 games a season and not half the season, this team will be good going forward. We need to remember this is only his second year as a head coach.

I don't necessarily agree with this. PR certainly coaches with emotion, but to say he is all about it sells him short as he puts a lot of pride in his and his coaching staff's preparation. I've also heard him talk about not being too emotional and eliminating the highs and lows that can come with it. He has the pulse of the team much more than us internet quarterbacks. Maybe he felt that a bunch of rah-rah wasn't the answer, or maybe he tried it and it didn't take.

Your second bolded point is one that needs to be emphasized. Even the best and most experienced coaches struggle with preventing a physical and emotional hangover coming off a game like Nebby.

To the original question, yes, I believe this was the worst performance by a PR coached team at ISU. No debate that the CU game was a giant floater and I'm guessing the players and coaches would tell you much the same thing behind the scenes. There's blame to go around to all involved. I'll put my trust in all of those same individuals that we'll see something much better against Mizzou.

[ISUCyclone06]

Ouch I was thinking last years game which was 34-24 it looks... Either way mood point. Go ISU I want to go bowling and believe we have a shot.

[clonomaniac]

The last Missouri game at home 2 years ago was one game left, a home game, Senior night and was a very cold windy night. We were thumped

I was at that game. It was so painful to watch, I left before the half. Chizik gave me every reason to give up on Cyclone football altogether and I hate to admit it. Paul Rhoads gives me every reason to make this trip to Ames this Saturday but I am hesitant because of last week's showdown.

I don't know if Paul Rhoads is still hung up on the Nebraska loss but if I were him I would be very careful. Losing to Colorado is the worst thing you can do to your resume. Its almost like ***** slapping a cop just to get into prison. I am sorry but I am hurting from this loss. Rhoads usually wins winnable games. If Rhoads' team does not show up to play this Saturday and lose to Missouri in a beatdown fashion I honestly do not see this coaching staff getting contract extension. The money is tight, and we just cannot afford to keep coaches who are less prepared than the kids.

Now, if Arnaud was not hurt, I wouldn't be so upset. This kid gave his best. I watched the replay of him getting hurt.

I guess one good thing about last week's loss is we won't lose anyone of our coaching staff to any other school.

Oh and about the Missouri game, I would run the bowl every down. Missouri doesn't have a solid run defense. They SUCK! But, what do I know. It all depends on whather Rhoads and company show up to coach.

[CycoCyclone]

Don't kid yourselves, CU had better talent on their side of the ball.

That being said, we got out-"everything" on Sat. Out-coached was the most obvious

[cyclones500]

I can't say for sure, performance-wise, if this was the worst.

I couldn't pick up the CU game in Michigan, but did watch the Utah game (until I couldn't stand it anymore) and wasn't able to see the OU game (which, after the Utah game, didn't upset me too much).

But as far as results, this was the most disheartening, with bowl eligibility on the line, then getting rolled.

It's too early to spot trends under Rhoads, but a notable blemish is managing to provide the sole victory for a Big 12 North team (KU last year, and possibly CU this season, unless the Buffies truly have caught fire and beat KSU this week ... let's hope). (There are positive micro-trends, too)

This is a key week for Rhoads, to see if the team can bounce back. A bowl is there for the taking, plus a tie for 3rd in the North (possibly sole possession of it, if CU can give us help). Remember, a lot of experts picked ISU 6th.

[Clones33]

Don't kid yourselves, CU had better talent on their side of the ball.

That being said, we got out-"everything" on Sat. Out-coached was the most obvious

Agreed. 100%

[d4nim4l]

Colorado does have more talent than us and they have the last few years. Fact is we did get out coached like others have said. Colorado got their guys motivated and we did not. Colorado brought blitzes from every place on the field and we failed to adjust.

The most disappointing part of the game for me was watching the complete failure to adjust on offense. Wally did a good job generating something for the defense and only a few calls went the wrong way because of execution. However, Herman completely and utterly did nothing to stem the pass rush from Colorado or make their linebackers pay for playing two yards from the line of scrimmage.