I sure HOPE Rhoads has an eye for talent and can develop it

**Win5002** · 11-17-2010, 12:53 PM

looking at who ISU is competing with for a lot of their recruits is not real impressive. By the looks of things Rhoads owns Memphis and UTEP.

I know stars are not everything, but it would be nice if a few of the recruits had more BCS school offers.

He seems like a real good coach but wow he has an uphill climb.

**CyLoboClone** · 11-17-2010, 12:57 PM

step 1: spell road
step 2: add an H
step 3: finish it off nicely with an S

**weR138** · 11-17-2010, 12:58 PM

Originally Posted by isuaggie

Rhoads

Rhoades, Rhoads, Roads, Rooooads, Row-adds, Rowwaaaadds

**LindenCy** · 11-17-2010, 12:59 PM

Seriously, give the guy a break. I mean one person pointed it out. But if someone jumps on your spelling errors, I'm sure they're just "anal."

**Haverhill** · 11-17-2010, 01:03 PM

Our recruiting scares me. Turner Gill has more 3 star recruits than we have recruits period.

**BleedCycloneRed** · 11-17-2010, 01:05 PM

Now can you correct the spelling for deVelop?

**Wesley** · 11-17-2010, 01:08 PM

Originally Posted by isuaggie

Rhoads

Yes, Sir.

Sorry.

Will this cost me credits to get off the hit list?

Win

**Drive4cy** · 11-17-2010, 01:26 PM

The recruiting class does look a little questionable but so far Rhoads has done fairly well recruiting guys a little under the radar. Van Der Kamp is a very good punter that nobody seemed to pay much attention, some guy named Jake Knott who had garbage offers has turned out pretty well, Money Reynolds had very few offers, David Sims didn't have a ton of interest, etc.

I wish this class had a few more high profile recruits but PR hasn't given us reason to doubt him yet.

**ajk4st8** · 11-17-2010, 01:27 PM

Look at last years 4 star players.

Im fine with 0-2 stars.

**CP44** · 11-17-2010, 01:29 PM

Originally Posted by ajk4st8

Look at last years 4 star players.

Im fine with 0-2 stars.

Agreed... they seem to do nothing but not reach expectations

**Trainer** · 11-17-2010, 01:33 PM

Originally Posted by Drive4cy

The recruiting class does look a little questionable but so far Rhoads has done fairly well recruiting guys a little under the radar. Van Der Kamp is a very good punter that nobody seemed to pay much attention, some guy named Jake Knott who had garbage offers has turned out pretty well, Money Reynolds had very few offers, David Sims didn't have a ton of interest, etc.

I wish this class had a few more high profile recruits but PR hasn't given us reason to doubt him yet.

Actually David was supposed to play for Oklahoma, but had to take a summer class and Oklahoma pulled their offer. I am not sure if one of his Junior college coaches was picked up by Rhoads, or whether his coaches called someone on the ISU staff but He was supposed to go to Oklahoma.

**Judoka** · 11-17-2010, 01:35 PM

Here's why this doesn't worry me too much: Let's be honest, ISU isn't gonna be getting any five stars any time soon, and this is always going to hurt us at certain positions like D-end and offensive tackle. However, we can succeed by identifying guys who are just a small step below those highly sought after recruits but that fit perfectly into our system.

So rather than fight for the cream of the crop and lose (and then have to scramble to pick up what recruits are letft), we are taking our pick of the guys right below that before they are picked off by other schools. We'll know in a year or two if this was the right approach.

**tazclone** · 11-17-2010, 01:47 PM

Originally Posted by Judoka

Here's why this doesn't worry me too much: Let's be honest, ISU isn't gonna be getting any five stars any time soon, and this is always going to hurt us at certain positions like D-end and offensive tackle. However, we can succeed by identifying guys who are just a small step below those highly sought after recruits but that fit perfectly into our system.

So rather than fight for the cream of the crop and lose (and then have to scramble to pick up what recruits are letft), we are taking our pick of the guys right below that before they are picked off by other schools. We'll know in a year or two if this was the right approach.

We are still going after some big name guys and losing them. Just take a look at our offer list
http://iowastate.rivals.com/offerlist.asp
Plenty of four star guys on that list and one could argue more than previous years. We offered, they had little interest and we moved on. The big difference between this year's class and previous classes are the BCS offers. What I like is a lot of these guys are either tweeners or projects. Guys with talent that other teams would rather wait to offer later after their senior film comes out.
On the flip side, why doesn't a guy like Sam Richardson(Florida) have more offers. Video looks impressive, he plays on a winning big school Florida team so it isn't like he hasn't been seen by most schools.

**Judoka** · 11-17-2010, 01:59 PM

Originally Posted by tazclone

What I like is a lot of these guys are either tweeners or projects. Guys with talent that other teams would rather wait to offer later after their senior film comes out.

Exactly, you said what I was trying to say much better than I did. We're getting commitments now from the guys who would be filling out the last few openings at places like Texas or Oklahoma once their senior seasons are over. It's good that we aren't ignoring those 4 star recruits, because we might be able to pull in one or two with the promise of early playing time, or that really like our coaches. But in general we need to follow the same strategy that places like Iowa used to become successful: find overlooked guys and develop them into monsters.

**brett108** · 11-17-2010, 02:01 PM

Originally Posted by tazclone

We are still going after some big name guys and losing them. Just take a look at our offer list
http://iowastate.rivals.com/offerlist.asp
Plenty of four star guys on that list and one could argue more than previous years. We offered, they had little interest and we moved on. The big difference between this year's class and previous classes are the BCS offers. What I like is a lot of these guys are either tweeners or projects. Guys with talent that other teams would rather wait to offer later after their senior film comes out.
On the flip side, why doesn't a guy like Sam Richardson(Florida) have more offers. Video looks impressive, he plays on a winning big school Florida team so it isn't like he hasn't been seen by most schools.

I don't think written offers are a matter of public record. The way most recruitng sites know is they contact a prospect and ask. Or their coaches. I know Sam Richardson has been contacted by TTU(the CB Sam), and they are not listed as an offer. My guess is once a prospect committs to ISU, there is not alot of incentive to keep checking in on his offer list. We are ISU. We will lose at least one of our recruits, and it will probably be to a school who is not listed as an offer right now.