Class A Championship Game

[Cyclone1985]

Do you think the Bosen kid from Dowling could find his way onto the Cyclone team?

Dude has the frame to put on weight. His body right now though looks more like a bball player.

[tazclone]

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So you played for Jim Walden in 1991? My guess is that you have far less athletic talent than Boerm. The Walden teams were not at the D1 level so your comment is laughable. The best receiver I can remember playing for ISU was Lane Danielsen, a kid from Dike who no one else wanted. But he was the fastest player at ISU for his 4 years, and had some of the best big plays I can remember.

ISU may not want him, but the Rhoads teams are far ahead of the teams you played on. The UNI teams you make fun of were far better than ISU when you played.

FWIW- if he graduated in 1991, then he was on Waldens's best team as a soph. Oh and just because he played for a losing team, maybe he knows what it takes to be better. Maybe he sees the kid in question as someone just like him and that wasn't good enough. Who knows, either way, I would say a former player probably has better insight.

And did the kid in question dominate all year or did he dominate in one game in the state playoffs? That is completely relevant. One game could mean he had a good game and took advantage of weaknesses. All year and more research would be needed.

[Tank]

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So you played for Jim Walden in 1991? My guess is that you have far less athletic talent than Boerm. The Walden teams were not at the D1 level so your comment is laughable. The best receiver I can remember playing for ISU was Lane Danielsen, a kid from Dike who no one else wanted. But he was the fastest player at ISU for his 4 years, and had some of the best big plays I can remember.

ISU may not want him, but the Rhoads teams are far ahead of the teams you played on. The UNI teams you make fun of were far better than ISU when you played.

This coming from a guy that probably got cut from his junior high football team.

[Cyforce]

Nobody else offered Jake Knott he obviouly has no business playing D-1 Football.

[ChrisMWilliams]

Video: North Tama takes home the Class A Title | Iowa Prep Fanatic

[Cyforce]

FWIW- if he graduated in 1991, then he was on Waldens's best team as a soph. Oh and just because he played for a losing team, maybe he knows what it takes to be better. Maybe he sees the kid in question as someone just like him and that wasn't good enough. Who knows, either way, I would say a former player probably has better insight.

And did the kid in question dominate all year or did he dominate in one game in the state playoffs? That is completely relevant. One game could mean he had a good game and took advantage of weaknesses. All year and more research would be needed.

4000 yards total offense in 14 games.
almost 1500 rushing, over 200 receiving and over 2300 passing

there's a website that you can watch a replay of the game.
I think it's Iowa sports connection.
When you watch it you'll see a kid that has the "it" factor.

[dualthreat]

I came home wanting to root for the Central Iowa team.
Seeing Hickel's same ole same ole turned my stomach.

you mean the same ole same ole that got them into that game? Madrid only runs 4 plays anyway. And they've dominated class A football for the most part. Most of his players love him and the way he coaches

my 2 cents

[Cyforce]

you mean the same ole same ole that got them into that game? Madrid only runs 4 plays anyway. And they've dominated class A football for the most part. Most of his players love him and the way he coaches

my 2 cents

They're the best in the state at pounding teams with half the talent.

[Tornado man]

you mean the same ole same ole that got them into that game? Madrid only runs 4 plays anyway. And they've dominated class A football for the most part. Most of his players love him and the way he coaches

my 2 cents

Except in championship games, right?
Hinkel never gives credit to the opposing team when he loses, like yesterday. He talked about Madrid "playing not to lose, the UNI Dome factor, the deer in the headlights look in his players," blah, blah, blah. But when he wins, it's always about his superior "system"
How about saying you got beat by a better team? Maybe North Tama has a superior "system?"

[Bigguns]

Well..unlike you, I played for Iowa State and know what it takes to play at a
D-1 level.

I like Boerm ...and his brother,too!...I just dont think either one can help
a D1 program like ISU get over the hump.There are dozens of kids like him
that show up in the HS playoffs.They are a great fit for UNI or Drake or
Coe or ect.....
To get over the hump...Iowa State needs better athletes.
No disrespect meant to the kids that wont make it.
I'm just saying that we need to set our priority prospects just as high as the other Big 12 schools.

I played too and I remember guys at UNI that should have been at ISU or Iowa, like Kurt Warner, Dedric Ward, Bryce Paup, Kenny Shedd, James Jones (all Iowa kids and all NFL guys) and many others. Please don't be so quick to judge.

[dualthreat]

They're the best in the state at pounding teams with half the talent.

Except in championship games, right?
Hinkel never gives credit to the opposing team when he loses, like yesterday. He talked about Madrid "playing not to lose, the UNI Dome factor, the deer in the headlights look in his players," blah, blah, blah. But when he wins, it's always about his superior "system"
How about saying you got beat by a better team? Maybe North Tama has a superior "system?"

First off, I have absolutely zero affiliation with madrid. I've just heard stuff from a guy i know who played there a few years ago. And yes, when you go to the playoffs and to the dome and have the track record that madrid football has had- thats domination. I can't tell you all the stats about their football history, sorry, but i can tell you that they are a powerhouse in football.

I don't know why you need to bring talent into the equation. Are you somehow saying that because they didn't win the state championship yesterday, that its time to change what he's been doing?? Because it sure sounds like it.

[Cyforce]

First off, I have absolutely zero affiliation with madrid. I've just heard stuff from a guy i know who played there a few years ago. And yes, when you go to the playoffs and to the dome and have the track record that madrid football has had- thats domination. I can't tell you all the stats about their football history, sorry, but i can tell you that they are a powerhouse in football.

I don't know why you need to bring talent into the equation. Are you somehow saying that because they didn't win the state championship yesterday, that its time to change what he's been doing?? Because it sure sounds like it.

I said exactly what I meant, Hinkel is really good at running up the score against weaker teams, which seem to fill his district every year. When they come up against a team with a pulse they have issues even after they lead 20-0.

[Tornado man]

First off, I have absolutely zero affiliation with madrid. I've just heard stuff from a guy i know who played there a few years ago. And yes, when you go to the playoffs and to the dome and have the track record that madrid football has had- thats domination. I can't tell you all the stats about their football history, sorry, but i can tell you that they are a powerhouse in football.

I give credit to Randy for building such a program in a town like Madrid. It has taken a lot of hard work, and it's neat to see all the little kids in Tiger gear, dreaming one day of playing for Madrid High School.
He could have more class, though, in dealing with losses and giving credit to the other teams. In his eyes, it's never another school that beats him, it's that Madrid beat themselves.
It gets old.

[Cyforce]

I give credit to Randy for building such a program in a town like Madrid. It has taken a lot of hard work, and it's neat to see all the little kids in Tiger gear, dreaming one day of playing for Madrid High School.
He could have more class, though, in dealing with losses and giving credit to the other teams. In his eyes, it's never another school that beats him, it's that Madrid beat themselves.
It gets old.

I completely agree Randy has done a great job building a program.
He's also the most arrogant person I've ever met. That has something
to do with how he's built such a good program. It also factors into why
they lost yesterday.

I think HS has evolved in the last 10 years. The most successful teams have
their best athletes making the decisions instead of being the main option.

[ISU2010]

4000 yards total offense in 14 games.
almost 1500 rushing, over 200 receiving and over 2300 passing

there's a website that you can watch a replay of the game.
I think it's Iowa sports connection.
When you watch it you'll see a kid that has the "it" factor.

The "it" factor for Iowa Class A football is "it". Boerm is not D1 football material.

Traer is 25 minutes south of Cedar Falls, so obviously the UNI staff all know about him, yet they are showing no interest in him. The schools after Boerm are D-II and D-III. From what I've heard, even the D-II schools haven't offered him a scholarship yet. Why would ISU want someone that even D-II schools are on the fence about? Jeff Woody was someone that D1 schools were on the fence about, not D-II schools. And Woody had the size and speed to play safety, linebacker, or running back.

I watched Boerm's championship game performance today. He is very impressive against Class A competition. Yet he also plays for one of the top 3 or 4 Class A programs. He didn't do it all himself yesterday. North Tama has been one of the best Class A programs the past five years and will still compete for a state championship next year without Boerm. It helps to get those kinds of numbers when you have the ball in your hands every single play and play a system suited to your strengths. He has one hell of an offensive line - rarely had much pressure in his face or allowed any penetration on running plays so he could get to the edge. He had a great receiving corps that he could often just throw it up to and let them go get the ball, and it's not like he was facing D1 caliber defensive backs. He's one of the best players in Class A this year, that's for sure.

Being the best player on the best Class A team doesn't translate into being a D1 prospect. There is only one former Class A player on scholarship at Iowa, ISU, or UNI - a lineman at UNI who played for Class A champ Southern Calhoun two years ago who's like 6'7" 300 lbs. That's it. We have a 2011 LB recruit from Class A school BGM-Brooklyn, but that kid has legitimate D1 size, speed, and strength, and from what I've seen of him, at 6'2" 225 lbs, he's every bit the play maker that Boerm is, but he just played on a lesser team.

In many years the best player on a 4A state championship team doesn't get a D1 offer either. Connor Bravard of Dowling has been sensational this year but has no D1 offers. Put him in Boerm's system at North Tama, and he would do equally as well.

So if you want to make the case for Boerm as a D1 player for ISU, rather bragging about what he does playing for the best team in Class A and rather than ripping on the assessment of someone who actually played D1 football at ISU, albeit 20 years ago, why not provide some measurables for Boerm that would be relevant for playing D1 safety or slot receiver, like 40-yard dash and vertical jump? Because I'm sure if you actually got those for Boerm, you'd see why no D1 coach finds him to be D1 material. Last thing that ISU needs are slow white kids who can't jump at wide receiver or safety.