Steele Jantz JUCO QB

**twojman** · 12-07-2010, 07:22 AM

Originally Posted by tazclone

Yep, upsets me as well. The defense could use some of those schollies on the DL and at safety but we keep recruiting WR and QBs. It is frustrating. Develop players on the offensive side please.

From what we saw of the QB's a JUCO is a necessity.

**cayin** · 12-07-2010, 07:32 AM

yeah, but what about DT? We have none and are running out of ships. Most schools struggle to recruit that position, but it seems none more so than us.

**mt85** · 12-07-2010, 07:35 AM

QB is probably the position that has the greatest individual impact on the success or failure of a team.

Look at the turn around at Texas A & M after their QB change. Look at the success of Auburn after they bought Cam Newton.

We need to find an impact player at the QB position.

**Stormin** · 12-07-2010, 07:51 AM

Originally Posted by mt85

QB is probably the position that has the greatest individual impact on the success or failure of a team.

Look at the turn around at Texas A & M after their QB change. Look at the success of Auburn after they bought Cam McDaniel.

We need to find an impact player at the QB position.

Cam McDaniel?? He was just here for a visit and is going to Notre Dame, I believe.

I think you mean Cam Newton.

**Omaha Cy** · 12-07-2010, 07:55 AM

I love the proposition of a Juco QB here. We know Tiller has had his struggles at the position. Haven't seen Cappello or Barnett throw a pass yet when the real bullets are flying.

ISU has a nice little window next fall, and they need to take advantage of that. I gotta believe Rhoads and Burnham think they can get that defense to play fairly well next year against virtually anyone. Cyclones just need some decent QB play and they can get to a bowl game.

**KMAC_ATTACK** · 12-07-2010, 08:22 AM

Originally Posted by cyclonedave25

That's fine. We need a pass first, run second type of QB.

Completely agree cyclonedave.....if we had an offensive system that didnt rely on the qb carrying the ball 20 times a game maybe our senior qb would have been there our final game......

To me its really hard to evaluate this kid because he never throws into a tight window....every throw is to a guy that is wide open....he will not have such luxury at ISU...

For me - IMO....to properly evaluate our qb situation its based on two things.
1. Does the qb make the right reads of the defense.
2. Can we find 1-2 guys that can make plays in the WR corp? the guys that are "Supposed" to be "The Guys" are simply not making plays and not giving the qb a window larger then a 5 gallon bucket to throw into.....

To further this point, in the missouri game nearly the entire 2nd half the missouri safety was in the camera shot...that tells me like every other team we played this year....they had ZERO respect for us over the top.....just so everyone realizes....its easy to defend 15 yards!!!!!

Give me those two things and your qb play will be better....until then, dont matter how many qb's you bring in.......

**mt85** · 12-07-2010, 08:22 AM

Originally Posted by Stormin

Cam McDaniel?? He was just here for a visit and is going to Notre Dame, I believe.

I think you mean Cam Newton.

You are correct. Thanks for the heads up. Aging is hell on the mind.

**galactawitz** · 12-07-2010, 08:42 AM

Originally Posted by mt85

You are correct. Thanks for the heads up. Aging is hell on the mind.

I seem to remember a JUCO QB that was pretty good. I think Seneca Wallace was his name. Oh Samsonite...knew it started with an S though.

**isuno1fan** · 12-07-2010, 09:16 AM

Doubt this kid is the answer. Cripes...he had to walk on at Hawaii.

**mizouse87** · 12-07-2010, 09:27 AM

Originally Posted by isuno1fan

Doubt this kid is the answer. Cripes...he had to walk on at Hawaii.

You are so dumb...fo real

**weR138** · 12-07-2010, 09:34 AM

Originally Posted by cayin

yeah, but what about DT? We have none and are running out of ships. Most schools struggle to recruit that position, but it seems none more so than us.

Agreed. Look at what Wally has done with the talent we have. Imagine what he could do if DT/DE was the focus.

**jmb** · 12-07-2010, 09:39 AM

Originally Posted by twojman

This has to say something about confidence in Tiller and other QB's on the roster.

I don't think these kinds of posts do anything positive for the program.

**isuno1fan** · 12-07-2010, 09:50 AM

Originally Posted by mizouse87

You are so dumb...fo real

Sorry...I forgot you are the know it all when it comes to FB recruiting.

He will be on the Heisman watch list because he walked on at Hawaii.

Better?

**CarolinaCy** · 12-07-2010, 09:51 AM

FWIW, I heard Jeremy Crabtree on 1620 here in Omaha a couple weeks ago talking recruiting, and the first caller asked about o-line/d-line prospects for ISU. Crabtree basically said that the 2011 class is very thin at the DL position, and that most teams, other than the big names, were going to have to develop guys rather than recruit them.

Really, this is nothing new for ISU. There's only so many DL/DE to go around, this year fewer than usual, so we're going to have to move guys to the position and hopefully develop them.