Jantz looks (to me) like he might struggle a bit with accuracy

**dunar** · 03-23-2011, 01:22 PM

I know the problem, or why he may have appeared off. You can't see it in that video, but the faux hawk is gone... Watch his interview... We're doomed until the hair is back!

**sdcyfan** · 03-23-2011, 01:44 PM

I thought Jantz actually looked impressive.

**isuno1fan** · 03-23-2011, 01:53 PM

Originally Posted by CyDude16

No one is claiming he is the savior of our football program, but there is an obvious reason why he was brought in. The coaching staff has repeatedly said they aren't happy with the present situation at qb. Whether its due to lack of talent or the field maturity and growth of Capello/Barnett.

A 47.9% completion percentage isn't going to cut it next year.

I agree, but a 58% completion percentage isn't going to cut it either. Whoever is under center needs to be in the upper 60s.

I trust the coaches to put the guy with the best opportunity to do that in the game.

**bos** · 03-23-2011, 01:58 PM

Originally Posted by CloneAggie

Is a double jimlad sort of like a double negative?

Hmmm. Good question. Can we get judges on this to confirm?

**synapticwave** · 03-23-2011, 02:33 PM

Originally Posted by isuno1fan

I agree, but a 58% completion percentage isn't going to cut it either. Whoever is under center needs to be in the upper 60s.

I trust the coaches to put the guy with the best opportunity to do that in the game.

Obviously having a comp% in the upper 60s would be great since that puts you in the top 20 or so QBs in the NCAAs, but I'm not sure if we "need" that. With our returning OL and stable of RBs we should have a decent running game. So, I would say that what we "need" is a QB who is around 60% that takes care of the ball and makes good decisions.

Looking through some of the big12 QB stats over the last few years, you can find several examples of teams with 60%ish QBs that had very successful years (by ISU standards):

2009 Landry Jones (OU) threw 58.1% and they went 8-5.
2009 Zac Robinson (OSU) threw 59.8% and they went 9-4.
2010 Blain Gabbert (Mizzu) threw 63.1% and they went 10-3.
2007 Todd Ressing (KU) threw 61.8% and they went 12-1.

The key is turnovers and decision making. Whether a guy is 58% or 65% doesn't matter if he's throwing 2 picks per game or taking sacks when he shouldn't or not audibling when he should. We need a guy that will manage the game well and throw less than 1 Int/game, preferably around .5 int/game. That's part of why Jantz was so attractive, he only threw 7 picks last year at SFCC, despite throwing the ball a lot and down field a lot. All other things equal, I'd take a guy with a 59% completion rate that has 6 ints per year over a 65% guy with 15 picks.

I agree with you completely that our coaches will find the best guy to put on the field. And whoever it is, I'll support 104%.

**Omaha Cy** · 03-23-2011, 03:20 PM

Jantz and AA had similar amount of attempts and completions, but Jantz averaged over 5.5 yards more per completion than AA. I think that has to be a telling stat, that he seemed to attack defenses for bigger chunks of yards.

AA did a great job in Big 12 play by not throwing many INT's, so therefore he had a pretty good season in my book. Perhaps Jantz will have have to scale back his style of attack now that he's in the Big 12. If hes similarly accurate to AA throwing the ball further down field at the JUCO level, then it leads me to believe he could be just as accurate or better than AA in the shorter routes.

Jantz will be facing a whole new level of competition, but I gotta believe some of the best JUCO DBs have to be at least on par with with the average or worse Big 12 DBs.

**Bipolarcy** · 03-23-2011, 03:26 PM

Originally Posted by isuno1fan

Granted it is only one video, but in one of the QB videos on Cyclones.com he clearly throws inaccurate passes on 3-4 occasions and that is with no pressure whatsoever.

No doubt I am reading too much into it, but I was concerned about his completion percentage in JC when I saw his stats. It was lower than Arnaud's completion percentage. Watching the video and seeing him overthrow some receivers did not give me the warm fuzzy.

I'm sure it's nothing, but just a first observation given his past statistics and a first glance at him in a 2 min practice video.

Hoping for the best!

I saw some catchable passes that were dropped myself.

**flander1649** · 03-23-2011, 03:34 PM

I am fine with a QB that will have a lower completion % if the causes of that are he is throwing the ball away instead of getting sacked. Also if there is a 3rd and long and a QB takes a chance of throwing it down the field but is incomplete vs dumping the ball down and the receiver is tackled short of the first down either way you are still punting.

**Omaha Cy** · 03-23-2011, 03:35 PM

Looked up Jantz' stats vs the ranked team he faced last year.

2 really outstanding games, 1 sub par performance(yards/completions) but with a couple TDs.

2 games where he hovered around 50% and tosses a couple picks in both games. 3 TD passes in those 2 games.

Appears he was about 50/50 on his performance vs the top teams he faced..although I don't know which one were great defensive teams and which were not. Regardless, they beat all the top 10 opponents they faced, and Jantz had a few games in there with a lot of rushing yards.

**Aclone** · 03-23-2011, 08:50 PM

Mmm...the sweet scent of over-analysis. Must be Spring football time!

**LonoClone** · 03-23-2011, 08:54 PM

Originally Posted by Aclone

Mmm...the sweet scent of over-analysis. Must be Spring football time!

Mmm...an entry dripping with know-it-all-ism and high-horsery. Must be an Aclone post!

**Clones21** · 03-23-2011, 08:54 PM

I actually think Jantz has the best arm out of all of them...so far.

**everyyard** · 03-23-2011, 09:00 PM

Can we discuss the future QB's without dogging on AA. AA = bowl champion. We've had 3. Do the math.

**mustangcy** · 03-23-2011, 09:26 PM

Originally Posted by everyyard

Can we discuss the future QB's without dogging on AA. AA = bowl champion. We've had 3. Do the math.

Yep...AA is a champion. Not many who've donned the Cardinal and Gold can say the same.

**TheCaptain** · 03-23-2011, 09:27 PM

Well I've seen all the qb candidates throw over the past few weeks...and at todays practice.

Jantz has the best arm as far as velocity in the 15-30 yard range....which most throws are.He looks legit to me.
Tiller has the best understanding of the offense. (obviously).
Capello has the second best arm and second best understanding of the offense.
He could come out out of this as the starter if he learns the offense better and
decides to be a pocket passer instead of a runner first.
Just my observations but I think Jantz is for real but Capello has the best upside.