New Big 12 Schedule Unfair? - CPR Quote

[weR138]

Is there a specific reason that the B12 went to a true round robin?

[UNIGuy4Cy]

I don't know what imaginary world you live in, but NIU would NOT have "likely beat" KSU, KU, Baylor, and Tech. They would've competed with Kansas...not exactly a ringing endorsement. They got beat by a below average Iowa State team and a .500 Illinois team. They beat up on the god awful MAC conference.

And I give him a chance every year. Yeah those upsets are great, but for each of those, I can think of multiple games where our coaching staff didn't have the team even close to ready to play. No one should come into Jack Trice and throw up 69 points. I don't see Coach Rhoads as irreplaceable like most Cyclone fans because he hasn't done anything earth shattering. We're wildly inconsistent and a lot of that boils down to coaching. Some weeks the game plan looks phenomenal (Nebraska the last two years and Texas last year) and other times you wonder if they practiced at all over the week (Iowa the last two years, Colorado, Utah, Oklahoma, A&M two years ago). When we get beat for the most part, we get taken out behind the woodshed and slaughtered.

This year again we're going to have to pull some upsets to get to .500. We should expect to beat UNI and Kansas. The only game where a blowout should be acceptable is walking into Oklahoma. Other than that, there is no reason for us to lose any games by 20+.

NIU under Jerry Kill was pretty solid and got better throughout the season.

[cyfanatic]

"I'd prefer that not to be the case every year, but we'll deal with it," said Rhoads..."What I think coaches want is some balance. You don't want to put yourself at a disadvantage when it comes to qualifying for bowls compared to teams from other conferences."

Again...do you think CPR is stepping up to defend and protect KU when he makes this statement? If you don't believe he has Iowa State directly in his head when saying this then you are foolish...he knows as well as anyone how tough this makes it for Iowa State to go bowling! There is nothing to suggest that CPR would back away from this challenge but then he has no choice. I think CPR is a great fit for ISU as our head football coach...he is a very intelligent man as well as passionate. But if you don't think a 9 game (plus Iowa and UConn) conference schedule makes CPR feel like the schedule is stacked against him you are crazy! Realistically if CPR gets us to 8+ wins...he should be Big XII coach of the year! That would be doing a more than solid job given the circumstances.

[Clones85']

The Big East was definitely an option. Google, read, learn.

The world is ending in 3 days. Google, read, learn.

[cyfanatic]

Paul Rhoads preaches continuous improvement, I will assume his players will follow that path also. Honestly maybe playing TTU and Baylor and ridding ourselves of Utah, NIU and maybe Iowa, will help in the W column.

What coach doesn't preach continuous improvement?

[IcSyU]

What coach doesn't preach continuous improvement?

2002 Dan McCarney.

[cyfanatic]

2002 Dan McCarney.

Now that is just mean...lol

DMac "preached" it...we just had trouble practicing it!

[alarson]

The world is ending in 3 days. Google, read, learn.

Self: Big East was set to take Kansas, others - CBSSports.com

[UNIGuy4Cy]

What coach doesn't preach continuous improvement?

I dont know about you, but he hasn't shown me that his players haven't taken on this philosophy. The 2010 team would have beaten the 2009 team. The 2011 team will be better on paper at the beginning of the season than the 2010 team was at the end of last season.

[CykoAGR]

I don't know what imaginary world you live in, but NIU would NOT have "likely beat" KSU, KU, Baylor, and Tech. They would've competed with Kansas...not exactly a ringing endorsement. They got beat by a below average Iowa State team and a .500 Illinois team. They beat up on the god awful MAC conference.

And I give him a chance every year. Yeah those upsets are great, but for each of those, I can think of multiple games where our coaching staff didn't have the team even close to ready to play. No one should come into Jack Trice and throw up 69 points. I don't see Coach Rhoads as irreplaceable like most Cyclone fans because he hasn't done anything earth shattering. We're wildly inconsistent and a lot of that boils down to coaching. Some weeks the game plan looks phenomenal (Nebraska the last two years and Texas last year) and other times you wonder if they practiced at all over the week (Iowa the last two years, Colorado, Utah, Oklahoma, A&M two years ago). When we get beat for the most part, we get taken out behind the woodshed and slaughtered.

This year again we're going to have to pull some upsets to get to .500. We should expect to beat UNI and Kansas. The only game where a blowout should be acceptable is walking into Oklahoma. Other than that, there is no reason for us to lose any games by 20+.

This is dead on. I would say that I feel like we are fairly consistent on Dfense. I'm not saying that the Dfense is good enough to beat top teams but they can at least keep us in the game if the offense has any sort of productivity. The problem to me lies on the offense and the offense alone.

I think CPR has gone from unkown to idol in some peoples eyes for the sole reason that on any given saturday there is a chance that we can beat a better team. From my time as a cyclone fan (+/- 10yrs) this is the only time that this has EVER happened. DMac and Chizzle never made cyclone fans feel that they had a chance.

In my opinion CPR has done more in his short time than was expected, however if we fail to get to a bowl this year the pressure is on to make a change in our offense because after three years the "learning" curve should be a straight line.

[cyfanatic]

I dont know about you, but he hasn't shown me that his players haven't taken on this philosophy. The 2010 team would have beaten the 2009 team. The 2011 team will be better on paper at the beginning of the season than the 2010 team was at the end of last season.

Wait...you call people out for stating facts when you don't agree with their statement. So...how do you know the bolded statement above?

[Al_4_State]

Self: Big East was set to take Kansas, others - CBSSports.com

Yeah, I'm not sure why so many of our fans, as well as the local media just ignored that.

[aeroclone]

I never said the biggest reason for the TV contract increase was due to more conference games but it was a significant factor in the overall increase. ISU vs Baylor is not generally not an appealing game on a national scale but to the TV networks, it beats the hell out of ISU vs Tenn Tech. ISU vs Baylor has regional appeal for a network, ISU vs Tenn Tech has none whatsoever outside of the ISU fanbase and friends/relatives of the Tenn Tech players. The networks wanted more quality inventory to televise.

Regarding bowl revenue, the old 8-game conference format with the championship game hurt the B12 in several seasons solely due to that format. It knocked a team out of BCS contention as Dan Beebe has frequently mentioned. And when it comes to bowl revenue, the BCS games are the only ones that count. The other bowl games generally resulted in a loss once expenses are accounted for.

I'm sorry, but there is no way the extra conference games were a factor. The value of TV rights doesn't jump from $20M per year to $90M per year because ISU vs Baylor is that much better than ISU vs Tenn Tech.

If that was the case, please explain the most recent ACC TV contract.

ESPN outbids Fox for ACC television rights | Triangle Business Journal

They finalized a contract a little while before our deal going from $67M per to $155M. There has been no change in the makeup of the conference or in the scheduling.

Prices are going up on BCS TV contracts because there is much more value to putting games on TV now then there was when the old contracts were done many years ago. There is also a finite supply of BCS conferences to provide that programming. Thus, networks are willing to pay more.

I don't think there would have been any significant difference in our deal with an 8 game conference schedule. Most likely, teams would have been more willing to schedule 1 or 2 decent non-conference games that they likely won't schedule now, so the overall quality of the games isn't going to change much.

[UNIGuy4Cy]

Wait...you call people out for stating facts when you don't agree with their statement. So...how do you know the bolded statement above?

Scoring offense 2010 97 2009 103
Rushing offense 2010 72 2009 36
Passing offense 2010 95 2009 94
Total offense 2010 99 2009 73

Scoring defense 2010 74 2009 33
Rush defense 2010 93 2009 86
Passing defense 2010 64 2009 103
Total defense 2010 87 2009 99

cfbstats.com - College Football Statistics

End of the season:
SOS according to USAToday in 2009 - 66
SOS according to GBE College Football Ratings in 2010 - 10

Offense was neutral but rushing the ball was a lot better in 2009, and defense was better in 2010 especially against the pass. Could ISU hit the top 25 in pass defense this year? The glaring stat is SOS.

So the 2010 team finished with 1 less regular season win and played twice the competition. I would vote for an improvement.

[cyfanatic]

Scoring offense 2010 97 2009 103
Rushing offense 2010 72 2009 36
Passing offense 2010 95 2009 94
Total offense 2010 99 2009 73

Scoring defense 2010 74 2009 33
Rush defense 2010 93 2009 86
Passing defense 2010 64 2009 103
Total defense 2010 87 2009 99

cfbstats.com - College Football Statistics

SOS according to USAToday in 2009 - 66
SOS according to GBE College Football Ratings - 10

Offense was neutral but rushing the ball was a lot better in 2009, and defense was better in 2010 especially against the pass. Could ISU hit the top 25 in pass defense this year? The glaring stat is SOS.

Those are just numbers comparing one year to another...if we are going to go by those then we shouldn't play the games. You are assuming everything was equal between each years' opponents...that they did not improve or regress as well? What about the passion and heart that you think plays such a vital part of the game? Did you include that factor in your assessment? I have no idea who would win between those teams...your numbers don't change my mind as they can be picked apart and made meaningless to your argument.