Big 12 Starting QB's in 2011

**IowaStateClones** · 05-26-2011, 08:36 PM

Originally Posted by FootballinTexas

I agree. But you stated that he will start all year. That would suggest that he is playing very well because I firmly believe that Texas football is bigger than satisfying the Gilbert ego. That would put him in the same bracket as Jones and Weeden.

I like to argue with everyone too.

This guy is obviously right no need for any more posts

**cykadelic2** · 05-26-2011, 08:39 PM

Originally Posted by Al_4_State

Griffin is overrated. Big time. He looked unstoppable as a freshman (and threw some incredible balls against ISU). Last year, he looked pretty average when I saw Baylor. Defenses figured out how to contain him as a runner and all Baylor throws are bubble screens.

My prediction is he has a down year and isn't nearly the threat he's built up to be.

Jones, Weeden, and Tannehill on the other hand... yikes

Griffin still had lingering injury issues from the prior season and some new nagging injuries that affected his play last season. If he completely healed and injury-free, he should be very good and probably the best athlete in the B12.

**FootballinTexas** · 05-26-2011, 08:42 PM

Originally Posted by yaman3

Then build in the offseason. I don't want the team taking the field with any intention other than to win. I don't care what the situation is.

I think that you are a great football guy. But I believe that's the wrong mindset. If you're not winning, try playing another guy or guys. I don't care what position it is. That would mean that youre trying to win. What if A&M had carried your mindset last season? No bowl and a crappy season. They looked to the future and made the changes. I would do the same at ISU.

**Al_4_State** · 05-26-2011, 08:42 PM

Originally Posted by cykadelic2

Griffin still had lingering injury issues from the prior season and some new nagging injuries that affected his play last season. If he completely healed and injury-free, he should be very good and probably the best athlete in the B12.

I'm not convinced in his ability to consistently throw anything other than the bubble screen. He's a hell of an athlete, not denying that at all.

**FootballinTexas** · 05-26-2011, 08:44 PM

Originally Posted by IowaStateClones

I like to argue with everyone too.

This guy is obviously right no need for any more posts

No arguments here. I'm very peaceful.

**Tre4ISU** · 05-26-2011, 08:54 PM

Originally Posted by FootballinTexas

I think that you are a great football guy. But I believe that's the wrong mindset. If you're not winning, try playing another guy or guys. I don't care what position it is. That would mean that youre trying to win. What if A&M had carried your mindset last season? No bowl and a crappy season. They looked to the future and made the changes. I would do the same at ISU.

I'm also a fan though. I dont' disagree with putting another guy in if you think he could be better like aTm did with Tannehill but I don't think putting someone in for the sake of experience is the right move either. That's probably the fan in me.

**Tre4ISU** · 05-26-2011, 08:55 PM

Originally Posted by Al_4_State

I'm not convinced in his ability to consistently throw anything other than the bubble screen. He's a hell of an athlete, not denying that at all.

I kind of thought he had the throwing ability of Denard Robinson but he didn't have the all around running ability. That said, he is still very scary.

**FootballinTexas** · 05-26-2011, 09:07 PM

Originally Posted by yaman3

I'm also a fan though. I dont' disagree with putting another guy in if you think he could be better like aTm did with Tannehill but I don't think putting someone in for the sake of experience is the right move either. That's probably the fan in me.

Valid point. However fans call for change all of the time. We saw that several times over the past few seasons. As far as experience....that's debatable so I'll leave it at that.

**dualthreat** · 05-26-2011, 09:08 PM

i think RG3 went a really long time without throwing an interception (big 12 record maybe?) when he was a freshman. That should jump out at you-- being the superstar athlete that he is--

**Jambalaya** · 05-26-2011, 09:17 PM

Originally Posted by dualthreat

those sure are some darn good big 12 south QBs

there are going to be 5 or 6 really good teams

There is no such thing as the "big 12 South"

**00clone** · 05-26-2011, 09:17 PM

Originally Posted by yaman3

Then build in the offseason. I don't want the team taking the field with any intention other than to win. I don't care what the situation is.

Yep. The man speaks the truth. You go out with the intention of winning every game. Think of these 2 things:

1. How much respect is Tiller getting for his 'experience' and 'learning opportunities' he got the last 2 years?

2. If we put a green QB on the field with the expectations of losing, what does 3 pretty sure losses do for our respect/recruiting/team confidence building versus possibly pulling off 1, 2, or 3 of the final games if you stick with the experience.

If the older guys are bad enough to justify them being benched, sure, but not just to get the young guys in for experience.

**Al_4_State** · 05-26-2011, 09:20 PM

Originally Posted by dualthreat

i think RG3 went a really long time without throwing an interception (big 12 record maybe?) when he was a freshman. That should jump out at you-- being the superstar athlete that he is--

Yup. I thought that too. Then I looked at the passes he was throwing. Its pretty easy to avoid INTs when you never throw the ball more than 5 yards down the field.

**Yes13** · 05-26-2011, 09:37 PM

Originally Posted by Al_4_State

Yup. I thought that too. Then I looked at the passes he was throwing. Its pretty easy to avoid INTs when you never throw the ball more than 5 yards down the field.

You know Landry Jones does the same. Doing what you're supposed to well is still a good QB. Baylor has some real good WRs, he doesn't have to do much throwing. He's really only asked to make plays with his feet, which he does really well.

**woodie** · 05-26-2011, 11:08 PM

Originally Posted by Yes13

You know Landry Jones does the same. Doing what you're supposed to well is still a good QB. Baylor has some real good WRs, he doesn't have to do much throwing. He's really only asked to make plays with his feet, which he does really well.

landry at oklahoma will be the best qb in the south.
a new scary qb in the south will be a freshman at texas tech. this kid could be real good and could be an outstanding qb. his name is scotty young and young could end up as the starting qb for texas tech...
texas a and m have a very good freshman qb from kerrville,texas..he could win the starting job over tannehill.i forget his name,but he is a very good passer and had an exceptional showing in their spring game...