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    Re: Iowa Offers Barkley Hill?

    Quote Originally Posted by clonestar12 View Post
    You are giving the hawk coaching staff way too much credit here. Considering what has been going on in IC, my guess is the Clones will start getting the upperhand in the recruiting wars instate. You actually sound like those hawk fans that really believe that iowa is a NC contender every year, but can`t name the players on their team.
    No.

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    Re: Iowa Offers Barkley Hill?

    Quote Originally Posted by ozzie8 View Post
    No.
    Iowa fans go to Iowa (unless the coaches forget about them; Miller). Iowa State fans go to Iowa State (unless the coaches forget about them; Van Sloten). The ones that are too good go out of state. Pretty simple equation.

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    Re: Iowa Offers Barkley Hill?

    Quote Originally Posted by Yes13 View Post
    Iowa fans go to Iowa (unless the coaches forget about them; Miller). Iowa State fans go to Iowa State (unless the coaches forget about them; Van Sloten). The ones that are too good go out of state. Pretty simple equation.
    I talked to a guy the other day that is friends with the Van Slotens. It's just unreal how badly Chizik handled that situation. The only way Brett was going anywhere besides ISU was if the coaching staff completely blew off the family....and that's exactly what they did. Ferentz was more than happy to pick up the pieces on that one. Just so sad.

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    Re: Iowa Offers Barkley Hill?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rhoadhoused View Post
    Actually I would say he is a lot further back for ISU behind SJ, Woody, Nealy, & Standard.
    I was talking about the pecking order for THIS class, not on the overall roster. Hill is obviously at the top of ISU's wishlist (with a couple other backs) as far as RBs for the 2012 class. For iowa, he must have been further down and only got the offer when they decided they wanted an extra RB above what they had planned.

    I just think that the whole thing is a little weird. If they thought he was a BCS back, why not offer before now? What changed that made him worthy in their eyes...was it Coe going to IWCC or did one of the guys they were after commit somewhere else? It's not like he blew up their camp, since that is supposedly this coming weekend.

    I hope that he sees that ISU believed in him first and sticks, but you never know in recruiting.

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    Re: Iowa Offers Barkley Hill?

    Quote Originally Posted by Frak View Post
    I was talking about the pecking order for THIS class, not on the overall roster. Hill is obviously at the top of ISU's wishlist (with a couple other backs) as far as RBs for the 2012 class. For iowa, he must have been further down and only got the offer when they decided they wanted an extra RB above what they had planned.

    I just think that the whole thing is a little weird. If they thought he was a BCS back, why not offer before now? What changed that made him worthy in their eyes...was it Coe going to IWCC or did one of the guys they were after commit somewhere else? It's not like he blew up their camp, since that is supposedly this coming weekend.

    I hope that he sees that ISU believed in him first and sticks, but you never know in recruiting.
    I really do think the Iowa staff was hoping that Hill would be available as a preferred walk-on or wait it out and be a late offer as a back up plan. Once he comitted to ISU early, they threw the offer out there in hopes that Hill would think about it and possibly reconsider before the end of the year.

    Iowa has a history of slow playing Iowa kids and hoping to pull them in late (walk-on or late offer). Especially athletes that they may want to move to other positions.
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    Re: Iowa Offers Barkley Hill?

    Quote Originally Posted by cyhiphopp View Post
    I really do think the Iowa staff was hoping that Hill would be available as a preferred walk-on or wait it out and be a late offer as a back up plan. Once he comitted to ISU early, they threw the offer out there in hopes that Hill would think about it and possibly reconsider before the end of the year.

    Iowa has a history of slow playing Iowa kids and hoping to pull them in late (walk-on or late offer). Especially athletes that they may want to move to other positions.
    I wish we would do that so we could get some of these iowa kids to walk on and get some athletes from Florida or Texas.

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    Re: Iowa Offers Barkley Hill?

    Quote Originally Posted by mitchforcy View Post
    I wish we would do that so we could get some of these iowa kids to walk on and get some athletes from Florida or Texas.
    You mean like Levi Peters and Ben Boesen?

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    Re: Iowa Offers Barkley Hill?

    Quote Originally Posted by Frak View Post
    I was talking about the pecking order for THIS class, not on the overall roster. Hill is obviously at the top of ISU's wishlist (with a couple other backs) as far as RBs for the 2012 class. For iowa, he must have been further down and only got the offer when they decided they wanted an extra RB above what they had planned.

    I just think that the whole thing is a little weird. If they thought he was a BCS back, why not offer before now? What changed that made him worthy in their eyes...was it Coe going to IWCC or did one of the guys they were after commit somewhere else? It's not like he blew up their camp, since that is supposedly this coming weekend.

    I hope that he sees that ISU believed in him first and sticks, but you never know in recruiting.
    Your last sentence sums it up - we're already bracing ourselves.
    The last in-state player who actually chose ISU over the Hawks was Austen Arnaud. That's so depressing. The worry and angst that ISU fans have concerning the possibility of Hill going to Iowa is certainly justified. We need to beat them on the field.

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    Re: Iowa Offers Barkley Hill?

    Quote Originally Posted by Frak View Post
    You mean like Levi Peters and Ben Boesen?
    Two beasts at that.
    Oh, hai there

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    Re: Iowa Offers Barkley Hill?

    Quote Originally Posted by Yes13 View Post
    Iowa fans go to Iowa (unless the coaches forget about them; Miller). Iowa State fans go to Iowa State (unless the coaches forget about them; Van Sloten). The ones that are too good go out of state. Pretty simple equation.
    The only thing we can try to change is that the neutral kids also tend to go to Iowa now as well. Like you said there are some kids that aren't really attainable, but we need to get those kids that are on the fence, especially since theres a good chance kids growing up in Iowa the last decade or so are probably Hawk fans.
    The only bigger turnoff than finding out a woman smokes, is finding out she's a Husker fan.

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