First day for Freshman - Strength and Conditioning

**Rhoadhoused** · 06-12-2011, 02:31 PM

Originally Posted by Bipolarcy

He wasn't playing well before he got hurt. I wouldn't put all my eggs in the Rony Nelson basket. In fact, I don't think I'd put one in there right now. It's going to be tough for him to beat out Willie Scott, the way Scott played in the spring game. And Scott is just second string.

I guess we will see but I would bet Nelson gets into the two deeps by the first game of the season and could challenge for a starting spot. I'm really not high on Neal though. Lattimer is a good pass rushing threat and Maggit seems to have some potential but I don't see Willie Scott beating out Nelson.

**Frak** · 06-12-2011, 02:54 PM

Originally Posted by xboxfever

You do realize people say that about EVERY ISU class right? Every year ISU supposedly has all these hidden gems. ISU doesn't have the money to recruit the best of the best so they are forced to take risks. Sometimes it pays off (KO, Knott, Lamaak, Stephens, Dobbins, etc), but most of the time it doesn't.

I don't know...I've been following recruiting since Rivals started recruiting coverage back in 2002. To me, this class has more talent (many of them sleepers or hidden gems) than any since Chizik's first real class (LJ, Benton, Rump, Tiller, Schwartz, Darks, Sed Johnson, etc). There are quite a few guys in this class that I think "how the heck didn't that kid have more offers?". Guys like Miller, Brackens, Smith, Omoile, Daniels, Richardson the QB. Plus, there was some guys that were academic risks that the staff took a chance on (Standard, Lemke, Pompey) that they came through looking smart about.

**Aclone** · 06-12-2011, 02:54 PM

Originally Posted by Rhoadhoused

I guess we will see but I would bet Nelson gets into the two deeps by the first game of the season and could challenge for a starting spot. I'm really not high on Neal though. Lattimer is a good pass rushing threat and Maggit seems to have some potential but I don't see Willie Scott beating out Nelson.

As I recall, his position coach said at the start of Spring ball that Rony had a lot of work to do to be more than a situational pass rusher.

**Tedcyclone** · 06-12-2011, 03:01 PM

i personally was not comparing the talent simply the size... someone said Irving was too light, and i was pointing out that doesnt mean everything. speed 1st, weight 2nd. I dont know anything about iriving besides the fact he is over 6'4"

i was defending/agreeing with another poster.

**clonedude** · 06-12-2011, 07:22 PM

All I was saying is that everyone thought Rony Nelson was going to be the next Jason Berryman too. And when Rony arrived, and he was still healthy, and he hadn't heard that he was going to have to sit out a year... the coaches said he had a lot of work to do to see the field. Yes, this was before any injuries.

So just don't get all your hopes up too high on David Irving. He has a world of potential, but so have a LOT of recruits that have walked through our doors and never contributed anything. Give him time to learn things and get stronger. If he can play this year, great, but if not don't get down on him because he didn't meet your "expectations". That's all I'm saying.