Texas needs to go

**keokuk1** · 07-25-2011, 09:24 AM

I’m going to start this by saying that I’m a Hawkeye fan so I see this from an entirely different perspective from the outside looking in. If the Big 12 is to survive Texas has to go. The only reason OU, A&M, and others want to leave is because of Texas greed. Texas could care less about anybody but Texas. They are killing the Big 12 slowly but surely. Texas will continue to demand more and more from the rest of the Big 12 schools sucking the life out of them and then when they can’t take anymore they’ll go independent. Everything Texas has done over the past 2 years has been setting them up for that inevitable goal. If the Big 12 is to survive they have to find a way to get Texas out and then attempt to bring in other schools from other conferences to get back to 12. If we have learned anything from the Big Ten it’s this, only when money and power/influence are shared equally can a conference thrive and be strong. I think there are a lot of schools that would be interested in joining a Big 12 that has OU, A&M, and the rest of the Big 12 teams making a strong conference. Again this is coming from someone on the outside looking in. I just feel that unless you get rid of Texas this drama is only going to end badly for ISU and the other smaller schools in the Big 12. I will say it is too bad that ISU can’t get into the Big Ten because when you look at it geographically and culturally you are a good fit for the Big Ten you are also now surrounded by Big Ten schools so it would be a natural fit for both. Again just an outsiders view.

**CycloneErik** · 07-25-2011, 09:25 AM

Good. We've got today's "Iowa fan says the Big 12 can't and won't survive" thread. This should be pleasant.

**chuckd4735** · 07-25-2011, 09:26 AM

LOL, you're from Keokuk.

**WalkingCY** · 07-25-2011, 09:26 AM

Wrong.

**tm3308** · 07-25-2011, 09:27 AM

Originally Posted by keokuk1

I’m going to start this by saying that I’m a Hawkeye fan so I see this from an entirely different perspective from the outside looking in. If the Big 12 is to survive Texas has to go. The only reason OU, A&M, and others want to leave is because of Texas greed. Texas could care less about anybody but Texas. They are killing the Big 12 slowly but surely. Texas will continue to demand more and more from the rest of the Big 12 schools sucking the life out of them and then when they can’t take anymore they’ll go independent. Everything Texas has done over the past 2 years has been setting them up for that inevitable goal. If the Big 12 is to survive they have to find a way to get Texas out and then attempt to bring in other schools from other conferences to get back to 12. If we have learned anything from the Big Ten it’s this, only when money and power/influence are shared equally can a conference thrive and be strong. I think there are a lot of schools that would be interested in joining a Big 12 that has OU, A&M, and the rest of the Big 12 teams making a strong conference. Again this is coming from someone on the outside looking in. I just feel that unless you get rid of Texas this drama is only going to end badly for ISU and the other smaller schools in the Big 12. I will say it is too bad that ISU can’t get into the Big Ten because when you look at it geographically and culturally you are a good fit for the Big Ten you are also now surrounded by Big Ten schools so it would be a natural fit for both. Again just an outsiders view.

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Edit: Damnit, guys! You beat me to it!

**keokuk1** · 07-25-2011, 09:28 AM

Originally Posted by CycloneErik

Good. We've got today's "Iowa fan says the Big 12 can't and won't survive" thread. This should be pleasant.

I don't think your understanding what I'm saying, yes with Texas as part of the Big 12 no the Big 12 is toast, get them out and there is a good chance the Big 12 will not only survive but could even be better then it was.

**Al_4_State** · 07-25-2011, 09:30 AM

Getting rid of A&M would do the exact same thing. They're just as bad, if not worse than Texas. Texas has actually done some helpful things for the smaller schools of the Big 12. A&M just tries to ignite **** storms.

These schools mutual hatred will always create a perception of instability unless they're in separate conferences, which just seems unlikely given Texas politics.

Both of them are ****ed.

**gocubs2118** · 07-25-2011, 09:30 AM

Does anyone know how much wood a woodchuck could chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood?

**keokuk1** · 07-25-2011, 09:33 AM

Originally Posted by chuckd4735

LOL, you're from Keokuk.

Actually I was born and raised there but I live in the Des Moines area now.

**Clark** · 07-25-2011, 09:34 AM

Texas is good for the Big 12. Without them, the Big 12 takes a significant revenue hit. Could they survive? Possibly, but they'd have Big East level revenue stream and I'm not sure OU or A&M would stay long in that situation.

**Stormin** · 07-25-2011, 09:35 AM

The Big Ten needs to get rid of Ohio State. They are greedy and cheat.

**tm3308** · 07-25-2011, 09:35 AM

Originally Posted by keokuk1

I don't think your understanding what I'm saying, yes with Texas as part of the Big 12 no the Big 12 is toast, get them out and there is a good chance the Big 12 will not only survive but could even be better then it was.

And I don't think you understand where you're posting this at. No thread started by an Iowa fan, talking about this subject from this angle, is going to end well on this site. If you want to express this opinion in a thread that's already going, that's fine. But you'll always get jumped for starting a thread like this over here, much like an ISU fan would on HN if the circumstances were reversed.

**Clonefan94** · 07-25-2011, 09:35 AM

Originally Posted by CycloneErik

Good. We've got today's "Iowa fan says the Big 12 can't and won't survive" thread. This should be pleasant.

HAHA, not only that but them acting like we are holding pocket aces. Yup, let's kick out Texas. I'm sure that will bring real stability to the conference.

The biggest problem was teams like Nebraska voting with Texas to keep their money and the power, then running off to another conference when things didn't work out like they planned.

**CycloneErik** · 07-25-2011, 09:36 AM

Originally Posted by keokuk1

I don't think your understanding what I'm saying, yes with Texas as part of the Big 12 no the Big 12 is toast, get them out and there is a good chance the Big 12 will not only survive but could even be better then it was.

I don't think you understand reality. Conferences need a big draw. Texas is a big draw, while those other Texas schools are not.

For some reason, I think your idea is not going to be well-received, as most of us don't care about Hawk opinions regarding our conference. The Big 12 hiccups and works it out, life moves on, Hawks tell us we have no future, and we let you know what we think of Hawk fans, which is a lower opinion all the time.