Pac-12 not interested in Texas

**MeanDean** · 07-27-2011, 05:30 PM

Originally Posted by cyman05

Yeah, if he invites 4 of those schools then superconferences for sure would never happen because then you'd have 11 schools left out of the part instead of 7...

If you had 11 schools left out that'd be way too much of a stink because there would be at least 2-3 big names left out.

Or you could just create another super conference with the left out 11 by adding 5 more candidates.

**DRCHIRO** · 07-27-2011, 05:51 PM

What happens next

1. The LHN will be told to not show high school games
2. All will be fine and dandy in the Big 12 and we will again have "stability."
3. John Miller and a large portion of hawkeye nation will again be ****** that ISU is not shipped to the MAC.
4. Stay tuned to summer of 2012.

**cyman05** · 07-27-2011, 05:53 PM

Originally Posted by MeanDean

Or you could just create another super conference with the left out 11 by adding 5 more candidates.

You could, but the whole reason most people want to see super conferences is because they'd easily set up a football playoff. 5 conferences don't exactly do that. And if you had 5 superconferences certainly the one with the leftovers that formed wouldn't be viewed as much of a superconfernece and the TV revenue would reflect that.

**Sammy11** · 07-27-2011, 06:18 PM

Originally Posted by DRCHIRO

What happens next

1. The LHN will be told to not show high school games
2. All will be fine and dandy in the Big 12 and we will again have "stability."
3. John Miller and a large portion of hawkeye nation will again be ****** that ISU is not shipped to the MAC.
4. Stay tuned to summer of 2012.

5. Big 12 expands and shuts the media up

**Sammy11** · 07-27-2011, 06:25 PM

The 4 X 16 playoff as a rationale for realignment is misguided. Each is its own decision process and will mold around the other. Any playoff will work with whatever power leagues are there and any league will realign based off their own profit/loss question.

**cykadelic2** · 07-27-2011, 07:10 PM

Originally Posted by chuckd4735

If Texas calls the Pac 12 and says we want in, but our network comes with, there is no doubt in my mind the Pac 12 would make it work.

Not gonna happen, the LHN was the deal breaker last year and will continue to be in the future. Scott was lucky to get USC to agree to full revenue sharing for the entire conference, Texas will never go for that nor do they have to.

**CyCrazy** · 07-27-2011, 07:23 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisMWilliams

Texas is arguably the biggest national brand in college athletics (Notre Dame and a few others might argue that). The Pac-12 and every other conference in America will always be interested in Texas.

Texas swings the biggest stick out of any other program in the country. The rest of the Big 12 may have butt hurt about it but its true. I for one dont care what they do as long as the Big 12 survives. OU and A&M are second fiddle along with any other power in the country. Sorry tOSU, UM, Bama, Florida, ND and USC. Texas is the big boy and will be from here on out. Texas is a good/evil for the Big 12.

**jdoggivjc** · 07-27-2011, 07:36 PM

Originally Posted by MeanDean

BYU?
Boise State?
UNLV
U of New Mexico?
U of Hawaii?
San Diego State?

None of these schools will ever sniff Pac # membership, for several reasons. First, the Pac 12 is essentially the B1G of the west - it likes to pretend academics come first. Boise St is essentially a glorified community college, which is why even though they regularly own Pac 12 teams on the football field, they will never receive membership. Except for BYU none of the rest of those schools are "reputable" academic institutions, either.

BYU will never get an invite because it's a conservative religious school trying to get into an extremely liberal conference. Cal-Berkeley is probably the most liberal of all of those schools, and they are actually on the record stating they would never vote to admit BYU into the conference.

Hawaii will never get an invite because no Pac 12 school wants to regularly pay travel costs to play in Honolulu. It's a nice trip once every few years - it's not a trip you want to make regularly.

UNLV might be an attractive add considering Las Vegas, but the Pac 12 may want to distance itself from the associated sports gambling (it's part of the reason why no pro sports franchise has located there).

New Mexico is one of the least populated states in the nation, so while it would be new areas the Pac 12 is reaching, it's not bringing in a whole lot of viewership. Sure, Nebraska doesn't have a whole lot of people in state either, but at least they have a relevant (although douchey) football history and a national following. UNM does not have that.

San Diego St brings absolutely nothing to the Pac 12 that they don't already get from USC, UCLA, Cal, and Stanford. They would just be an additional slice to the pie (you know, the same reason it's unlikely ISU will ever join the B1G).

In short, none of these schools will ever join the Pac 12.

**cyfanatic** · 07-27-2011, 07:53 PM

Originally Posted by jdoggivjc

Sure, Nebraska doesn't have a whole lot of people in state either, but at least they have a relevant (although douchey) football history and a national following.

Love this!!

**Boomer** · 07-27-2011, 08:14 PM

Just get to 12 teams so other leagues will back off. I want a CCG badly

**CycloneErik** · 07-27-2011, 08:19 PM

Originally Posted by Boomer

Just get to 12 teams so other leagues will back off. I want a CCG badly

Agreed. Let's call BYU and somebody. I don't care if they have a network, either. Not a problem.

**cykadelic2** · 07-27-2011, 08:43 PM

Originally Posted by Boomer

Just get to 12 teams so other leagues will back off. I want a CCG badly

You need a talk with your FB coach. He hates them and I can understand why from his vantage point. Alot of those championship games have been dog games and several did not sell out. Also, several of them have cost teams the national championship game or BCS bids.

The only advantage of them is that Fox has been paying outrageous sums to the P12 and B10 to televise them.

**Boomer** · 07-27-2011, 08:52 PM

Originally Posted by cykadelic2

The only advantage of them is that Fox has been paying outrageous sums to the P12 and B10 to televise them.

And thats why we expand if we hold together.

**CyBobby** · 07-27-2011, 08:58 PM

In other words what your saying is that the big 12 is here to stay....because with the Longhorn network no other power conference wants the Horns.

Well since it looks like thats the case you could make the argument that unless the Horns want to go independent ....

The Horns needs the rest of the big 12 as bad as ISU KSU etc need the Horns to stay in the conference...

I have been saying that this conference would be bust in five years but I gotta tell you guys I think this conference with Texas in it will be viable for a lot longer than five years

And thats really good news for us here at Iowa State!

**cyman05** · 07-27-2011, 09:08 PM

Originally Posted by CyBobby

In other words what your saying is that the big 12 is here to stay....because with the Longhorn network no other power conference wants the Horns.

No, I'm sure the Big 10 and Pac 12 absolutely love to get the Horns, and maybe the SEC, but I think the Horns like the power of being in control either through the Big 12 or going independent.

I've said it before though that all bets are off in about 10-12 years when all these TV deals expire. If the SEC doesn't get greedy and try to expand in order to renegotiate their TV deal, then I don't think anything major happens for 10-12 years.