North Texas Game & Tailgate to Watch Coach Mac

**00clone** · 08-02-2011, 09:53 AM

Originally Posted by CyFan61

This might be the worst post I've ever read.

Yah, even though I just got done giving a little love for Dmac, this is a little out there on the other side.

**CyDude16** · 08-02-2011, 09:59 AM

Originally Posted by creightonclone

mikem - you're the one that's awful. Dan McCarney took ISU football to unprecedented heights. Quite frankly, a level that no other coach will take ISU football again. Hell, we can't even keep national championship winning coaches here. The Dan McCarney Era is as good as it's ever going to be.

Today's idiot of the day goes to you.

Congratulations.

**creightonclone** · 08-02-2011, 10:22 AM

Originally Posted by CyDude16

Today's idiot of the day goes to you.

Congratulations.

I'm just being realistic. The truth hurts sometimes.

**cyhiphopp** · 08-02-2011, 10:24 AM

Originally Posted by creightonclone

I'm just being full of ****. Trolling hurts sometimes.

FIFY

I think you are just trying to start a fight.

If you really don't think we can ever get to a level where we regularly go to bowl games, you have you head to far up DMacs rear end.

**rebecacy** · 08-02-2011, 10:25 AM

Originally Posted by Frak

More power to you guys, but I wouldn't really want to go root for UNT and a coach that ISU fired. I respect what he did at ISU, but he did get paid pretty well for doing it and in the end, couldn't get the job done.

+1

**rebecacy** · 08-02-2011, 10:32 AM

Originally Posted by aeroclone

I would hardly pat our backs for our journey to the AP top Ten. We just cracked the list at #9. We stayed there for one week. In our lone appearance as a top 10 team, we lost 49-3 on national television on our way to going 3-16 in our next 19 games. We followed this up by choking away the North title in back to back seasons. And then for his big exit, Dan went 4-8, beating Mizzou in a nail-biter in his final game to avoid going out with a winless conference campaign.

Dan made some improvements, but I would hardly say he put us on the map. Outside of the ISU fanbase, I don't think the reputation of our program has changed much at all. Those fans that don't still confuse us with the hawks, the buckeyes, or who knows what else would still identify us as a BCS bottom feeder.

It just seems to me like a lot of the Dan worship around here is more a reflection on the abysmal history of our program than it is on any accomplishments of Dan's. He got us to the doorstep a few times, but to me the legacy is more our continued, almost comical inability, to step through. So we finally beat Iowa and we went to a couple bowl games (that wouldn't have existed 20 years ago), and that was a good time, but it certainly didn't catapult us to a new level. Chizik couldn't do anything the following two years, and while we have high hopes for CPR, he has yet to show that the foundation was set for bigger things either.

I find the whole idea of an ISUAA sponsored event to go to a game not involving ISU to support a coach that was basically forced to resign from ISU just a little bit odd. I'm not going to say not to go, Dan clearly loved ISU and gave us his all and I respect that. But I honestly would be shocked if there are examples of other schools doing something at all like this.

Thanks, you wrote this better than I would have and captured my thoughts exactly. I will add "being forced to resign" = "fired!"

**creightonclone** · 08-02-2011, 10:41 AM

Originally Posted by cyhiphopp

FIFY

I think you are just trying to start a fight.

If you really don't think we can ever get to a level where we regularly go to bowl games, you have you head to far up DMacs rear end.

Start a fight? I wasn't the one who went negative with this whole thing. Plus, you're the one cursing and name-calling.

**rebecacy** · 08-02-2011, 10:43 AM

Originally Posted by ia8manfan

Hi everyone, I thought I would address a few things I have read on here. This event is a locally (DFW) sponsored event, and is not being organized by the ISUAA office in Ames...we are only using them as a means to communicate and organize payment, which is what we typically do for our events. I received a lot of feedback from our local alumni about going to see a UNT game once Dan took the job this spring, so we decided to make this one of our social events. Throughout the year, we have many social events, such as happy hours and attending a local Double-A baseball game. The money spent on these events by our members does not support Iowa State, but the events do bring alumni and their families together to share a good time.

We are currently in the process of organizing a bus to the Baylor game, but so far we have not had enough interest to fill the bus. Hopefully we can fill it here in the next few weeks and fill Floyd Casey with Cyclone fans!

I would suggest your local group needs new leadership, your priorities are completely out of whack. Even if the ISUAA office is only communicating and organizing payments that has to be taking man-hours and money away from The Cyclones and that is wrong. I've already called the AA Office to voice my concern.

**rebecacy** · 08-02-2011, 10:47 AM

Originally Posted by creightonclone

mikem - you're the one that's awful. Dan McCarney took ISU football to unprecedented heights. Quite frankly, a level that no other coach will take ISU football again. Hell, we can't even keep national championship winning coaches here. The Dan McCarney Era is as good as it's ever going to be.

I just put a gun to my head!!!!!!!!!!!

**creightonclone** · 08-02-2011, 10:58 AM

Originally Posted by rebecacy

I would suggest your local group needs new leadership, your priorities are completely out of whack. Even if the ISUAA office is only communicating and organizing payments that has to be taking man-hours and money away from The Cyclones and that is wrong. I've already called the AA Office to voice my concern.

I've already called the AA Office to applaud their efforts.

**cyhiphopp** · 08-02-2011, 11:06 AM

Originally Posted by creightonclone

Start a fight? I wasn't the one who went negative with this whole thing. Plus, you're the one cursing and name-calling.

Do you really think that we will never rise above the level of a few mid level bowl games followed by a 3 or 4 win season here or there?

I think CPR can take us to a level that we get to bowl games regularly. There may be off years here or there but not full rebuilding mode like with DMac. I think we will also have opportunities to have a great season here or there.

That's better than DMac did.

**creightonclone** · 08-02-2011, 11:14 AM

Originally Posted by cyhiphopp

Do you really think that we will never rise above the level of a few mid level bowl games followed by a 3 or 4 win season here or there?

I think CPR can take us to a level that we get to bowl games regularly. There may be off years here or there but not full rebuilding mode like with DMac. I think we will also have opportunities to have a great season here or there.

That's better than DMac did.

Honestly, no. It hurts to say that, but I'm trying to be realistic. I hope ISU can do better than Mac's legacy, but the new schedule, in-state recruiting, and revenue situation doesn't bode well for us.

**cycloneG** · 08-02-2011, 11:22 AM

Originally Posted by creightonclone

Honestly, no. It hurts to say that, but I'm trying to be realistic. I hope ISU can do better than Mac's legacy, but the new schedule, in-state recruiting, and revenue situation doesn't bode well for us.

What? ISU is making a hell of a lot more money now than it ever did when Mac was here.

**jbhtexas** · 08-02-2011, 11:25 AM

Originally Posted by creightonclone

Honestly, no. It hurts to say that, but I'm trying to be realistic. I hope ISU can do better than Mac's legacy, but the new schedule, in-state recruiting, and revenue situation doesn't bode well for us.

Part of DM's "legacy" was a conference winning % of 0.284. Jim Walden has that beat at 0.313, and CPR has them both topped at 0.375. Criner had 0.346, Duncan had 0.286, and Bruce had 0.429. Of the last 7 coaches (not counting Banker who coached for only 2 games in 1986, and he was 0.500), the only one worse than DM was Chizik.

ISU can do better. You might try being a little less defeatist.

**creightonclone** · 08-02-2011, 11:29 AM

Originally Posted by jbhtexas

Part of DM's "legacy" was a conference winning % of 0.284. Jim Walden has that beat at 0.313, and CPR has them both topped at 0.375. Criner had 0.346, Duncan had 0.286, and Bruce had 0.429. Of the last 7 coaches (not counting Banker who coached for only 2 games in 1986, and he was 0.500), the only one worse than DM was Chizik.

ISU can do better. You might try being a little less defeatist.

You say defeatist, I say realist.