Wouldn't it be better for KU, KSU, MU, ISU and Baylor

**Mesaclone1** · 09-04-2011, 12:46 PM

to hang together AS the Big 12, minus the 4 wanderers (OU, OSU, TT, and UT). We five schools form a majority and could then force the other 4 departing schools to pay out the very large departure fee. Then draft BYU, TCU, Louisville, Pittsburgh, Air Force, Boise State, South Florida, UCF, Cincinnati and Houston into a new Big 14. A Big 14 that still has BCS rights...for now...and could likely score a bigger contract than the Big East on a per team basis. That some very good football programs....and an excellent core of basketball schools as well. Further, with a 3 Texas schools and some nice Northeastern presence...recruiting could be very solid.

If the 5 little guys hang together...we can force one helluva a huge payout AND still have the Big 12. Failing that...we take our 5 (Baylor, ISU, MU, KSU, and KU) and join the Big East...along with one more addition such as Houston...and we're suddenly in a BCS super-conference. A conference, I would add, in which we could compete quite well.

**brianhos** · 09-04-2011, 12:50 PM

Need to have a strong 6 otherwise if all the others leave the conference automatically dissolves. If OU/OSU/TT/UT all leave together and aTm has already left, there is no penalty.

**3TrueFans** · 09-04-2011, 12:50 PM

I'm not even sure if this is a serious post.

**chadm** · 09-04-2011, 12:54 PM

The reason this will not happen, it is better to secure your future than worry about a single year payment.

**hobbes** · 09-04-2011, 12:54 PM

Originally Posted by brianhos

Need to have a strong 6 otherwise if all the others leave the conference automatically dissolves. If OU/OSU/TT/UT all leave together and aTm has already left, there is no penalty.

I don't think the conference would automatically dissolve. It would lose AQ status if it fell below 6. The conference could still exist unless the members voted to dissolve it, which would take a majority.

**Wesley** · 09-04-2011, 12:56 PM

Originally Posted by brianhos

Need to have a strong 6 otherwise if all the others leave the conference automatically dissolves. If OU/OSU/TT/UT all leave together and aTm has already left, there is no penalty.

Yep, that is why Pac 16 always wanted four members so exit fees would be impacted.

**cy4prez7** · 09-04-2011, 12:57 PM

I think you forgot the jimlad...there is absolutely 0% chance of this happening. It's probably even a negative percent.

**Mesaclone1** · 09-04-2011, 01:00 PM

The Aggies already left. Having 5 of the existing 9 members vote to stay constitutes a majority. I'm likely incorrect, but as I understood it...a majority vote would keep the conference intact as a legal entity. Does anyone know precisely how the bylaws work on this?

**CycloneWanderer** · 09-04-2011, 01:04 PM

Wouldn't you need a majority vote to disband the conference? Since the vote would be to dissolve the conference, inaction should leave the conference alive.

you would need 6/10 to dissolve the conference, if those 5 stick together that would not be possible. That would make sense to me.

**hobbes** · 09-04-2011, 01:05 PM

Originally Posted by Mesaclone1

The Aggies already left. Having 5 of the existing 9 members vote to stay constitutes a majority. I'm likely incorrect, but as I understood it...a majority vote would keep the conference intact as a legal entity. Does anyone know precisely how the bylaws work on this?

enjoy.

1.4.8 Voting. Except as otherwise provided in these Bylaws, each Member shall be entitled
to one (1) vote in all matters to be voted on by the Members; provided, however, that
in all elections of Directors, each Member agrees to vote in favor of the nominees
to the Board of Directors of the Conference selected by each other Member, which
nominee shall be the Chief Executive Officer of each Member Institution (President 5
or Chancellor). At all meetings of Members, except where the vote of more than a
majority of the Members entitled to vote is required by The General Corporation Law
of Delaware, the Restated Certificate of Incorporation or by these Bylaws or the Rules,
the vote of a majority of the Members entitled to vote shall be required for the approval
of any matter before the Members. Except as otherwise requested by a Member, the
vote of individual Members of the Conference on any matter shall not be recorded in
the minutes of the Members for such meeting.

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**CTTB78** · 09-04-2011, 01:38 PM

No BYU, please............

**alarson** · 09-04-2011, 01:41 PM

Originally Posted by Mesaclone1

The Aggies already left. Having 5 of the existing 9 members vote to stay constitutes a majority. I'm likely incorrect, but as I understood it...a majority vote would keep the conference intact as a legal entity. Does anyone know precisely how the bylaws work on this?

The aggies havent already left, theyve informed of their intention to leave. I think they might have a vote until June 30 when they would leave.

**hobbes** · 09-04-2011, 01:46 PM

Originally Posted by alarson

The aggies havent already left, theyve informed of their intention to leave. I think they might have a vote until June 30 when they would leave.

So to get a majority with 10 teams, you'd need 6 votes to dissolve the conference.

**Mesaclone1** · 09-04-2011, 01:56 PM

Correct me if I'm wrong...and as I said, I may be incorrect...but once a team has informed the league of its withdrawal, it is no longer is a voting member. Thus, there would only be 9 voting members. As mentioned above...and as the bylaws seem to show...it does take 6 votes to dissolve the conference according to the rules stated, even with 10 members.