No excuse

**CyLawyer** · 09-10-2011, 10:11 PM

Originally Posted by ISUcy08

That's the one I'm talking about. I don't blame him for talking the field goal in OT on fourth and one. Not going for the WIN with 1:20 to go and 2 timeouts, the same thing he did versus Ohio St.... stupid. Pretty sure Rhoads would have gone for it.

CPR did the same thing against Nebraska and lost in OT.

**CycloneErik** · 09-10-2011, 10:11 PM

Originally Posted by tm3308

HEY!!!! Being the rational, semi-objective Iowa fan is MY job!!!! Don't you dare start infringing on my territory around here!!!!

If you guys brawl, we'll cue up the ISU "V" Marching Band to play "Fight!"

**UI2015** · 09-10-2011, 10:13 PM

Originally Posted by CycloneErik

If you guys brawl, we'll cue up the ISU "V" Marching Band to play "Fight!"

Do you really want to get rid of the two Iowa fans who are respectable to ISU?

**tm3308** · 09-10-2011, 10:14 PM

Originally Posted by CyLawyer

CPR did the same thing against Nebraska and lost in OT.

And I'd prefer it if we'd gone for the win today. It didn't work, but I respect the hell out of Rhoads for making that call last year. He knew they couldn't go toe-to-toe with Nebraska forever, and so he looked to go for the knockout.

I was expecting him to do the same in OT today. The fact that he didn't tells me that he was very confident that whatever Iowa was going to do, Jantz could equal or better it.

**CycloneErik** · 09-10-2011, 10:15 PM

Originally Posted by UI2015

Do you really want to get rid of the two Iowa fans who are respectable to ISU?

I never said the loser had to leave......

**UI2015** · 09-10-2011, 10:18 PM

Originally Posted by CycloneErik

I never said the loser had to leave......

I just assumed it was a fight to the death..

**woodie** · 09-10-2011, 10:21 PM

hey herky boy,we should have beat you by 18 points. we did not because we had some stupid fumbles and many penalties. if we not fumbled on our first drive we would have kicked your herky butt royally. thanks for coming on our cyclone fanatic and commenting on the game. the hawks have a few decent players and the cyclones do ,too. i think our quarterback by the end of the season will win some games for us and i hope it opens up a pipeline to get some good athletes(recruits) from the san francisco juco college.
herky boy you just have to realize cpr is putting this young isu program together. hope u fellows win some games in your tiny ten conference. good luck to the herky team the rest of the season......

**UI2015** · 09-10-2011, 10:23 PM

Originally Posted by woodie

hey herky boy,we should have beat you by 18 points. we did not because we had some stupid fumbles and many penalties. if we not fumbled on our first drive we would have kicked your herky butt royally. thanks for coming on our cyclone fanatic and commenting on the game. the hawks have a few decent players and the cyclones do ,too. i think our quarterback by the end of the season will win some games for us and i hope it opens up a pipeline to get some good athletes(recruits) from the san francisco juco college.
herky boy you just have to realize cpr is putting this young isu program together. hope u fellows win some games in your tiny ten conference. good luck to the herky team the rest of the season......

Ten>Nine..

**CyLawyer** · 09-10-2011, 10:23 PM

Originally Posted by tm3308

And I'd prefer it if we'd gone for the win today. It didn't work, but I respect the hell out of Rhoads for making that call last year. He knew they couldn't go toe-to-toe with Nebraska forever, and so he looked to go for the knockout.

I was expecting him to do the same in OT today. The fact that he didn't tells me that he was very confident that whatever Iowa was going to do, Jantz could equal or better it.

I liked the fake extra point, but we had the ball with over a minute in regulation and 2 timeouts and the wind and the home field and CPR decided to run the clock out for OT. It was a mistake. I think you can defend Ferentz decision a little more since they were into the wind. However with McNutt it was probably worth a long pass.

**Balls** · 09-10-2011, 10:26 PM

Good news for the Hawk fan, while trying to be polite, I can tell who's the better team. ISU. They played head-to-head and ISU had a higher overall score. Any other comparision throughout the year is just conjecture...

**CloneFan4** · 09-10-2011, 10:27 PM

Originally Posted by woodie

hey herky boy,we should have beat you by 18 points. we did not because we had some stupid fumbles and many penalties. if we not fumbled on our first drive we would have kicked your herky butt royally. thanks for coming on our cyclone fanatic and commenting on the game. the hawks have a few decent players and the cyclones do ,too. i think our quarterback by the end of the season will win some games for us and i hope it opens up a pipeline to get some good athletes(recruits) from the san francisco juco college.
herky boy you just have to realize cpr is putting this young isu program together. hope u fellows win some games in your tiny ten conference. good luck to the herky team the rest of the season......

Please disregard this post.

**tm3308** · 09-10-2011, 10:28 PM

Originally Posted by woodie

hey herky boy,we should have beat you by 18 points. we did not because we had some stupid fumbles and many penalties. if we not fumbled on our first drive we would have kicked your herky butt royally. thanks for coming on our cyclone fanatic and commenting on the game. the hawks have a few decent players and the cyclones do ,too. i think our quarterback by the end of the season will win some games for us and i hope it opens up a pipeline to get some good athletes(recruits) from the san francisco juco college.
herky boy you just have to realize cpr is putting this young isu program together. hope u fellows win some games in your tiny ten conference. good luck to the herky team the rest of the season......

Not really sure which "herky boy" this was directed at, but I'll stab at it anyway.

I'm fully aware that ISU should have won this game going away. I've said it several times in various threads tonight. The Hawks were outplayed and outcoached, there's no other answer to why the outcome was what it was.

Would having Bernstine and McCall have been huge for the Hawks? Sure. But injuries/illnesses happen, and it's not like we're already suffering from a ton of injuries. If we were missing 5-6 starters today, that'd be one thing. But the top subs at two positions? Not so much, even though Bernstine brings a certain attitude to the defense that would have been nice to see today.

**cyrocksmypants** · 09-10-2011, 10:28 PM

There's no reason for it to go anywhere. The only people that think it's a "lose-lose" for Iowa are delusional Iowa fans that think America thinks much more about them than they actually do. Some idiot like Skip Bayless picks them as a darkhorse and suddenly Iowa fans think all of America thinks they're great. I always hear the argument "if they win, they're supposed to. If they lose, the country shocked and we lose credibility". The problem with that is, most of the country isn't shocked when Iowa loses to us. On the rare occassion when Iowa is highly ranked, sure, but not seasons like this season. I think most of America thinks we're fairly even teams. Not saying you or tm think that, as you two seem like logical and reasonable posters. Just the vocal minority in general.

Originally Posted by UI2015

I think all fanbases have those people, which is why I try not to be one. All fans like to embrace a win, and hate losing. But Hawkeyenation was over the top today. Its a shame some fans ruin it for the rest of us. I don't want the series to end, but I do understand why some people do.

**tm3308** · 09-10-2011, 10:31 PM

Originally Posted by Balls

Good news for the Hawk fan, while trying to be polite, I can tell who's the better team. ISU. They played head-to-head and ISU had a higher overall score. Any other comparision throughout the year is just conjecture...

Was ISU better than Iowa in 2002? They were on that September night, but not over the course of the season. Upsets happen in football. However, I really don't have the feeling that Hawk fans will be able to look back on this one as an upset.

**UI2015** · 09-10-2011, 10:32 PM

Originally Posted by cyrocksmypants

There's no reason for it to go anywhere. The only people that think it's a "lose-lose" for Iowa are delusional Iowa fans that think America thinks much more about them than they actually do. Some idiot like Skip Bayless picks them as a darkhorse and suddenly Iowa fans think all of America thinks they're great. I always hear the argument "if they win, they're supposed to. If they lose, the country shocked and we lose credibility". The problem with that is, most of the country isn't shocked when Iowa loses to us. On the rare occassion when Iowa is highly ranked, sure, but not seasons like this season. I think most of America thinks we're fairly even teams. Not saying you or tm think that, as you two seem like logical and reasonable posters. Just the vocal minority in general.

I actually enjoy the CYHawk game. It brings a good battle between friends and I, who go to the two schools. Its a big game for both schools, brings in money, gets the state talking about something, and usually turns out to be a great game, like today. I'm not sure its our "biggest" rivalry, because to me, losing to Wisconsin hurts more than anything. Just my feel. But its still a huge game and a huge rivalry.