No excuse

**tm3308** · 09-10-2011, 07:29 PM

There is simply no excuse for the Hawks losing today. They were outplayed, and out-coached. I'll have to wait and see how the season plays out before I could make an honest assessment of which team was better, but ISU was the better team today, and it wasn't even close.

Iowa's defense was completely unable to slow down Jantz. He made play after play, and while we had a few broken coverages (the TD in the North endzone and the one that got called back spring to mind), Jantz made far more pin-point passes. It wasn't just a few lucky breaks here and there.

ISU did all they could to GIVE this game away, and they still won. Turnovers, penalties. Didn't matter, Iowa wasn't able to take advantage of the Cyclone's mistakes. ISU manhandled Iowa in the trenches on BOTH sides of the ball (which shocked me, I figured the o-lines would dominate the game for both teams).

And how's about a little love for Money Reynolds, who truly was money today?

I said a couple weeks ago that I expected a competitive game, and that if ISU got a big play or two on special teams, I could easily see them winning it. Well, they had several good special teams plays.

I was losing it when we didn't go for a chance at a field goal at the end of the 4th quarter. I knew we wouldn't, but it still pi*sed me off. And it happened again after ISU offered us a window of opportunity on the offsides penalty to turn 4th and 6 into 4th and 1, yet we didn't go for it. You can't play not to lose, especially on the road, and ESPECIALLY when it's a rivalry game and the stadium is going as nuts as JTS was.

But that didn't cost us the game. Did it cost us a CHANCE to win the game? Sure. But the play of Steele Jantz and the rest of the Cyclones is what really lost this game for the Hawks.

**WichitaClone** · 09-10-2011, 07:32 PM

Well said, appreciate the classy hawk fans like yourself.

**fatkid1974** · 09-10-2011, 07:36 PM

First hawk fan I've seen today admit that. Are they gonna take your Hawk card away from ya. ;) Nice post.

**ISUcy08** · 09-10-2011, 07:42 PM

Good post! It's kind of refreshing not to hear a bunch of crap like "super bowl", Hawk fans saying Iowa simply let ISU have it, etc., like in previous years.

**ISUcy08** · 09-10-2011, 07:46 PM

Originally Posted by tm3308

There is simply no excuse for the Hawks losing today. They were outplayed, and out-coached. I'll have to wait and see how the season plays out before I could make an honest assessment of which team was better, but ISU was the better team today, and it wasn't even close.

Iowa's defense was completely unable to slow down Jantz. He made play after play, and while we had a few broken coverages (the TD in the North endzone and the one that got called back spring to mind), Jantz made far more pin-point passes. It wasn't just a few lucky breaks here and there.

ISU did all they could to GIVE this game away, and they still won. Turnovers, penalties. Didn't matter, Iowa wasn't able to take advantage of the Cyclone's mistakes. ISU manhandled Iowa in the trenches on BOTH sides of the ball (which shocked me, I figured the o-lines would dominate the game for both teams).

And how's about a little love for Money Reynolds, who truly was money today?

I said a couple weeks ago that I expected a competitive game, and that if ISU got a big play or two on special teams, I could easily see them winning it. Well, they had several good special teams plays.

I was losing it when we didn't go for a chance at a field goal at the end of the 4th quarter. I knew we wouldn't, but it still pi*sed me off. And it happened again after ISU offered us a window of opportunity on the offsides penalty to turn 4th and 6 into 4th and 1, yet we didn't go for it. You can't play not to lose, especially on the road, and ESPECIALLY when it's a rivalry game and the stadium is going as nuts as JTS was.

But that didn't cost us the game. Did it cost us a CHANCE to win the game? Sure. But the play of Steele Jantz and the rest of the Cyclones is what really lost this game for the Hawks.

Kirk should check in his pants and see if his balls have dropped yet. Sorry, I couldn't resist.

But seriously, that would **** me off as a fan. That's why, although it didn't work, I like Rhoads' risk taking like the Nebraska OT.

**AlleyAddict** · 09-10-2011, 07:50 PM

Thanks, all the hawk fans ive seen today went from "state sucks" to "they cant party like us"

**mg4cy** · 09-10-2011, 07:51 PM

refreshing yes, but most Hawk fans will have to wait for the rest of the season for the honest assessment on who was better, so they can play the superbowl card, and what not, not the scoreboard on who was better, its the season as a whole on who is better.

**SNEDDS3** · 09-10-2011, 07:54 PM

Originally Posted by tm3308

There is simply no excuse for the Hawks losing today. They were outplayed, and out-coached. I'll have to wait and see how the season plays out before I could make an honest assessment of which team was better, but ISU was the better team today, and it wasn't even close.

Iowa's defense was completely unable to slow down Jantz. He made play after play, and while we had a few broken coverages (the TD in the North endzone and the one that got called back spring to mind), Jantz made far more pin-point passes. It wasn't just a few lucky breaks here and there.

ISU did all they could to GIVE this game away, and they still won. Turnovers, penalties. Didn't matter, Iowa wasn't able to take advantage of the Cyclone's mistakes. ISU manhandled Iowa in the trenches on BOTH sides of the ball (which shocked me, I figured the o-lines would dominate the game for both teams).

And how's about a little love for Money Reynolds, who truly was money today?

I said a couple weeks ago that I expected a competitive game, and that if ISU got a big play or two on special teams, I could easily see them winning it. Well, they had several good special teams plays.

I was losing it when we didn't go for a chance at a field goal at the end of the 4th quarter. I knew we wouldn't, but it still pi*sed me off. And it happened again after ISU offered us a window of opportunity on the offsides penalty to turn 4th and 6 into 4th and 1, yet we didn't go for it. You can't play not to lose, especially on the road, and ESPECIALLY when it's a rivalry game and the stadium is going as nuts as JTS was.

But that didn't cost us the game. Did it cost us a CHANCE to win the game? Sure. But the play of Steele Jantz and the rest of the Cyclones is what really lost this game for the Hawks.

I respect you, you are a good poster but the first line in your post is an oxymoron.

**DareDevil** · 09-10-2011, 07:55 PM

Nice classy post! I agree with you that Iowa should have won with all the penalies and fumbles that were given up... They just never to advantage of them, other than the first fumble.

**tm3308** · 09-10-2011, 07:56 PM

Originally Posted by SNEDDS3

I respect you, you are a good poster but the first line in your post is an oxymoron.

Technically, yes it is. I just meant that in the sense that they didn't lose because "it's ISU's Super Bowl" or "we had guys injured", etc. They lost because they were outplayed, plain and simple.

**clonefanpaul** · 09-10-2011, 08:01 PM

Originally Posted by ISUcy08

Kirk should check in his pants and see if his balls have dropped yet. Sorry, I couldn't resist.

But seriously, that would **** me off as a fan. That's why, although it didn't work, I like Rhoads' risk taking like the Nebraska OT.

I would be even more ****** that with a minute and change on the clock at the end of the fourth he just killed the clock. Seriously, that decision was idiocy.

**Cyclonepride** · 09-10-2011, 08:04 PM

For all that the Hawks lost, I wouldn't get too down on them just yet. Your QB is solid, and the O-line blocked well. McNutt is scary to play against. The D definitely didn't look like an Iowa D, but give some credit to the ISU line- we didn't have all those big boys against UNI.

**Rural** · 09-10-2011, 08:08 PM

Originally Posted by Cyclonepride

For all that the Hawks lost, I wouldn't get too down on them just yet. Your QB is solid, and the O-line blocked well. McNutt is scary to play against. The D definitely didn't look like an Iowa D, but give some credit to the ISU line- we didn't have all those big boys against UNI.

I'd say it's way early to make that call. He really wasn't very good.

**ISUcy08** · 09-10-2011, 08:12 PM

Originally Posted by clonefanpaul

I would be even more ****** that with a minute and change on the clock at the end of the fourth he just killed the clock. Seriously, that decision was idiocy.

That's the one I'm talking about. I don't blame him for talking the field goal in OT on fourth and one. Not going for the WIN with 1:20 to go and 2 timeouts, the same thing he did versus Ohio St.... stupid. Pretty sure Rhoads would have gone for it.

**CRcyclone6** · 09-10-2011, 08:16 PM

some of these folks would differ with the non-excuses. funny **** in here. I couldn't resist, just for a bit.

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