Notre Dame to the ACC?

[Clark]

I thought that if ND were to ever join a conference it would be the Big 10? At least, that's what people were telling me for a year.

Has ND joined any conference yet? ND being some type of member of the Big 12 is still possible if the Big East ceases to exist. Unlikely, but more probable than ND ever joining the Big 10.

Waiting a few years after the Pac-12, SEC, and ACC get who they want...So the Big 10 likes to suck hind tit?

The Big 10 doesn't need to expand. The ACC and PAC 10 need to expand for different reasons (ACC for stability, the Pac 10 for better tv revenue)

For the record, I don't think ND is joining a conference in football and I don't think the SEC will go past 14 at least for a few years.

And yes, if ND ever joins a conference, it will be the Big 10. Unless you can explain the advantages of being in the ACC over the Big 10?

[jburke]

How can ND be forced to give up independent status?

Not literal, it is more if they make a move, they may not have a move to make if the stupid media term 'superconfernces' start to be formed.... It is all more media speculation.....

[JY07]

where is this "it would be better if ND joined the big 10 joined because their value offsets our lack of it" thinking coming from?

that makes absolutely no sense... the big 10 would take the most valuable teams available to them, period. they aren't thinking 'boy, we should grab ISU, but only if we can get a high value team first so everything evens out'

[swarthmoreCY]

The Big 10 doesn't need to expand. The ACC and PAC 10 need to expand for different reasons (ACC for stability, the Pac 10 for better tv revenue)

For the record, I don't think ND is joining a conference in football and I don't think the SEC will go past 14 at least for a few years.

And yes, if ND ever joins a conference, it will be the Big 10. Unless you can explain the advantages of being in the ACC over the Big 10?

If the Pac-12, SEC, and ACC go to 16, the Big 10 will have no choice but to expand.
The Big 10 is already, with an equal number of teams as SEC, ACC, and PAc-12, falling behind on the playing field. If the aforementioned three conferences expand, the Big 10 will be the bringing up the rear in market-share of the new "NCAA". The ACC would own the east, the SEC the south, the Pac-12 the West plus Texas. The three conferences collectively would rule the new "NCAA".

ND will never join the Big 10. Besides from emotional reasons stemming from before my time, for some of the same reasons the Big 10 is looking at ND, ND would prefer the new ACC: increase market/brand. By playing in the conference that owns the east cost, plus USC, ND remains national. They also fit better academically in the ACC.

[Clark]

Also, I don't get the thinking that conferences HAVE to be at 16 members. Without ND, there aren't even two schools that would increase revenue enough to give the Big 10 reason to expand.

Same for the SEC after they get A&M and presumably either WV or Mizzou. There aren't two other teams out there that would generate enough revenue to split the pie another two ways.

[Clark]

If the Pac-12, SEC, and ACC go to 16, the Big 10 will have no choice but to expand.
The Big 10 is already, with an equal number of teams as SEC, ACC, and PAc-12, falling behind on the playing field. If the aforementioned three conferences expand, the Big 10 will be the bringing up the rear in market-share of the new "NCAA". The ACC would own the east, the SEC the south, the Pac-12 the West plus Texas. The three conferences collectively would rule the new "NCAA".

ND will never join the Big 10. Besides from emotional reasons stemming from before my time, for some of the same reasons the Big 10 is looking at ND, ND would prefer the new ACC: increase market/brand. By playing in the conference that owns the east cost, plus USC, ND remains national. They also fit better academically in the ACC.

I've already responded to some of this in my previous post, but how exactly is it a detriment to have 12 teams rather than 16?

Also, PSU, OSU, and Michigan are just as big in the east as Syracuse, Uconn, Pitt, and Rutgers and will likely remain big as well.