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    Re: Receivers not getting open OR poor throws from the QB?

    Um, this is like a time capsule thread from last year right?
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    Re: Receivers not getting open OR poor throws from the QB?

    Quote Originally Posted by bosco View Post
    I watched the replay and Jantz's first interception wasn't as bad as I remember. If he had put more oomph on the ball it would have been for 6 since the receiver had a couple of steps on the defender. He did put too much air on the ball and it out hung out there a bit which was why it got picked. I did notice that Jantz has a tendency to put too much air underneath balls.

    He also got antsy in the pocket in that game. There were a few times the pocket was there but he got happy feet and scrambled into pressure. The terrible color guy even noticed that he was trying to force the ball deep when he should have hit open guys short early in the game.

    Even though he started 0 for 4 Jantz did end up 18 for 29 which is a 62% completion rate.
    This was especially evident during the UCONN game, but I don't remember thinking it prior to that. He seemed to put a lot of zip on the ball during the first two games. I don't know if it was the weather or he has a minor injury or I'm just remembering incorrectly.

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    Re: Receivers not getting open OR poor throws from the QB?

    Quote Originally Posted by bosco View Post
    I watched the replay and Jantz's first interception wasn't as bad as I remember. If he had put more oomph on the ball it would have been for 6 since the receiver had a couple of steps on the defender. He did put too much air on the ball and it out hung out there a bit which was why it got picked. I did notice that Jantz has a tendency to put too much air underneath balls.

    He also got antsy in the pocket in that game. There were a few times the pocket was there but he got happy feet and scrambled into pressure. The terrible color guy even noticed that he was trying to force the ball deep when he should have hit open guys short early in the game.

    Even though he started 0 for 4 Jantz did end up 18 for 29 which is a 62% completion rate.
    Exactly. He had a good game, and that first pass should have been a touchdown. He didn't have to put much more on it to make that happen.
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    Re: Receivers not getting open OR poor throws from the QB?

    Quote Originally Posted by bosco View Post
    I watched the replay and Jantz's first interception wasn't as bad as I remember. If he had put more oomph on the ball it would have been for 6 since the receiver had a couple of steps on the defender. He did put too much air on the ball and it out hung out there a bit which was why it got picked. I did notice that Jantz has a tendency to put too much air underneath balls.

    He also got antsy in the pocket in that game. There were a few times the pocket was there but he got happy feet and scrambled into pressure. The terrible color guy even noticed that he was trying to force the ball deep when he should have hit open guys short early in the game.

    Even though he started 0 for 4 Jantz did end up 18 for 29 which is a 62% completion rate.
    On the 1st pick, tt also looked as though Darks was not even looking for the ball. Don't agree with the OP, but I do believe Darks had an off game.
    The pass to the TE (don't remember if it was Hamm or Branderhorst) was in his hands, but the DB simply grabbed it out.
    Also, deep balls thrown short a lot of times are to the benefit of the receiver - intentional or not.
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    Re: Receivers not getting open OR poor throws from the QB?

    Hell, that first throw of the UConn game, Jantz just plain and simple under threw a completely wide open receiver. If he'd have put some umph behind it, first play would have been a TD.

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    Re: Receivers not getting open OR poor throws from the QB?

    Who is this guy, what games are you watching buddy. Heres what happened Friday with UCONN, the defnse was faster than Jantz expected and once he adjusted he was fine. He was used to the slow plodding Iowa defense the week before. At least there wont be any question about the speed he will face in a week and half. I am sure it has his whole attention

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    Re: Receivers not getting open OR poor throws from the QB?

    That first INT, was because Jantz said to himself "I can't ******* believe Darks has 2 steps on those db's", and then went on to try and aim the ball (short arm it) rather than just letting it fly, 2 to 6 more feet on that ball is 6pts. Early game jitters. The TE had his pass, but was hit, and tipped it the db. Probably only one bad INT, imo.

    IMO Jantz is a gamer, and I think he should do some game-like warmups, with pressure and coverage to get his blood pumping.

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    Re: Receivers not getting open OR poor throws from the QB?

    Yeah, everythign I have seen from this team , this year is head and shoulders better on the offensive end of things. I mean Recivers are making the big catch. The QB is actualy able to hit his man inbetween the linebackers and safties so, whats not to like.

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    Re: Receivers not getting open OR poor throws from the QB?

    Quote Originally Posted by IowaClone View Post
    Yeah, everythign I have seen from this team , this year is head and shoulders better on the offensive end of things. I mean Recivers are making the big catch. The QB is actualy able to hit his man inbetween the linebackers and safties so, whats not to like.
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    Re: Receivers not getting open OR poor throws from the QB?

    Quote Originally Posted by SCarolinaCy View Post
    The first 3 interceptions at UConn were not bad throws, particulary,,,,except neither receivers were open. UConn had great coverage.

    Ok, so we had some incredible defense and we escaped a loss.
    I don't know maybe I am crazy but doesn't throwing to a covered receiver define a bad throw?

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    Re: Receivers not getting open OR poor throws from the QB?

    SJ in juco threw the same tossup passes down the field and usually Aaaron Horne was good enough to take it away from the defender. UCONN defenders were fairly athletic. SJ says he learns all the time. He may be one of the first Clone qbs that learns lessons as the game goes on as seen by his play in the fourth quarter.
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    Re: Receivers not getting open OR poor throws from the QB?

    Quote Originally Posted by Alswelk View Post
    I personally think it was just nerves. This is evidenced by the fact he basically threw three picks right off the bat, then settled down and made good decisions the rest of the night (at least based on what I remember).
    This. I don't remember what Jantz's final line was, but he started 0/4 with 3 picks and at one point in the second half he was 12/16. I'd call that quite the turnaround.

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    Re: Receivers not getting open OR poor throws from the QB?

    Quote Originally Posted by SCarolinaCy View Post
    Compared to the opposing team, it appears to me the ISU receivers just do a poor job of getting open..........

    It also appears to me that Jantz throws to the receiver whether he is open,,,,or not. The lofty jump ball catchup throw to Reynolds was a clear example.

    So whom does the Offensive Coach lay the blame?

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    Re: Receivers not getting open OR poor throws from the QB?

    Quote Originally Posted by HititHard View Post
    I don't know maybe I am crazy but doesn't throwing to a covered receiver define a bad throw?
    Not necessarily, 6'2" receiver vs 5'9" cb in one on one coverage is good odds, especially now that WR's are starting to understand that they either make the catch, or break up the play.....it's what good recievers are suppose to do. Don't let years past of inadequate wr play skew your judgement of SJ play. We are 3-0, and still learning.

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    Re: Receivers not getting open OR poor throws from the QB?

    No idea what the OP is thinking, this is the best passing game we've had in years. Maybe he's never seen an Iowa State game prior to 2011?

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