Charles Rogers of Iowa City West committed to Iowa State this morning

**madcityCY** · 09-23-2011, 02:32 PM

Any reason Rogers might not be looked at as a WR? (as well as DB)

**BigLame** · 09-23-2011, 02:37 PM

In the grand scheme of life, loyalty seems to be a waning quality. However, in recruiting I believe it still carries some clout - believe Irving had callers on him late in the process, but the fact ISU was there early with the offer was important to him.

Now along comes Rhoads & the ISU program is taking off. Iowa has established a level of success, so much so it did not have to work very hard to recruit within the state. They work the 4-rated recruits hard outside of Iowa, but plenty of those commit late. Before Rhoads came along, they could wait until the last minute, & if they did not secure the recruit an Iowa kid would be waiting. Sometimes, they'd get the recruit, plus the Iowa kid would grey-shirt/walk-on - best of both worlds. Seems like the pendulumm is swinging, & swinging hard. ISU now has 5 in-state commits, Iowa has 1. Our 'Hayden' is here in Paul Rhoads, & that statement scares the heck out of hawg-eye fans. Bring up the trajectories of both programs, in-state recruiting & refer to CPR as our Hayden & just watch Hawk fans squirm. It is a lot of fun.

I think this Rogers kid could end up on either side of the ball. Very promising.

**wags** · 09-23-2011, 02:37 PM

Originally Posted by Frak

Don't forget Luke Knott! They might have a pretty good pair of Safeties in Rogers and Knott right behind two decent Safeties in the class prior in Brackens and Cotton. Brackens especially is going to be a stud. Kid played some CB in HS and is already 6'1 200. I would bet that he starts next year at SS and he's going to be up to 210...that's a BIG Safety.

As for iowa, I DO think that Rogers is a risk. To me, that's the toughest evaluation there is...an athlete playing QB and projecting how he'll play on defense. You never see him backpedal, you never see him form tackle, you never see him shedding a blocker or take an angle on a ball carrier. It also seems to me that ISU and iowa have different philosophies when it comes to Safety. And maybe that comes from the types of offenses they play. ISU wants someone athletic that can cover, yet hit. Iowa seems to place tackling above all else. They want a solid tackler with enough speed not to get beat deep. Seems to me that if that really is their priority, signing a kid who they've never seen tackle in a game might be too big of a risk.

If I'm not mistaken doesn't he already play DB for his team. And he's been to a lot of our camps so I think this staff has a pretty good grasp on his potential as a DB.

**benjay** · 09-23-2011, 02:43 PM

Originally Posted by BigLame

In the grand scheme of life, loyalty seems to be a waning quality. However, in recruiting I believe it still carries some clout - believe Irving had callers on him late in the process, but the fact ISU was there early with the offer was important to him.

Now along comes Rhoads & the ISU program is taking off. Iowa has established a level of success, so much so it did not have to work very hard to recruit within the state. They work the 4-rated recruits hard outside of Iowa, but plenty of those commit late. Before Rhoads came along, they could wait until the last minute, & if they did not secure the recruit an Iowa kid would be waiting. Sometimes, they'd get the recruit, plus the Iowa kid would grey-shirt/walk-on - best of both worlds. Seems like the pendulumm is swinging, & swinging hard. ISU now has 5 in-state commits, Iowa has 1. Our 'Hayden' is here in Paul Rhoads, & that statement scares the heck out of hawg-eye fans. Bring up the trajectories of both programs, in-state recruiting & refer to CPR as our Hayden & just watch Hawk fans squirm. It is a lot of fun.

I think this Rogers kid could end up on either side of the ball. Very promising.

Little early to hang the "Mission Accomplished" banner imo.

**BigLame** · 09-23-2011, 02:46 PM

Originally Posted by benjay

Little early to hang the "Mission Accomplished" banner imo.

No, but can I hang one with "Winning The Future"?

**ribsnwhiskey** · 09-23-2011, 02:47 PM

Originally Posted by BigLame

In the grand scheme of life, loyalty seems to be a waning quality. However, in recruiting I believe it still carries some clout - believe Irving had callers on him late in the process, but the fact ISU was there early with the offer was important to him.

Now along comes Rhoads & the ISU program is taking off. Iowa has established a level of success, so much so it did not have to work very hard to recruit within the state. They work the 4-rated recruits hard outside of Iowa, but plenty of those commit late. Before Rhoads came along, they could wait until the last minute, & if they did not secure the recruit an Iowa kid would be waiting. Sometimes, they'd get the recruit, plus the Iowa kid would grey-shirt/walk-on - best of both worlds. Seems like the pendulumm is swinging, & swinging hard. ISU now has 5 in-state commits, Iowa has 1. Our 'Hayden' is here in Paul Rhoads, & that statement scares the heck out of hawg-eye fans. Bring up the trajectories of both programs, in-state recruiting & refer to CPR as our Hayden & just watch Hawk fans squirm. It is a lot of fun.

I think this Rogers kid could end up on either side of the ball. Very promising.

Oh my god, don't ever, EVER refer to Coach Paul Rhoads as "our Hayden". That is a terrible insult and an even worse comparison.

**benjay** · 09-23-2011, 02:48 PM

Yeah I'm just trying to tone it down until we've actually accomplished something.

However in related news, Iowa fans think their basketball program is "back", because they now have 2 top 100 recruit commits.

**State43** · 09-23-2011, 02:56 PM

Sweet pickup CPR! We can always use athletes!

**Clonegrad07** · 09-23-2011, 02:59 PM

GREAT! Good to get a good athlete from in the state of Iowa. Keep up the recruiting trail!!!

**BigLame** · 09-23-2011, 02:59 PM

Originally Posted by ribsnwhiskey

Oh my god, don't ever, EVER refer to Coach Paul Rhoads as "our Hayden". That is a terrible insult and an even worse comparison.

I agree - I do not like Hayden, nor do I want or think Rhoads compares with Hayden, other than Hayden was able to build the Iowa program from obscurity to at least be pretty relevant. Rhoads is on this path, right? (although he will not stop at simply being relevant, but rathering conquering the college football universe like Alexander the Great conquered the entire known world at the time).

But Hawk fans love Hayden, so I say this sort of stuff around them just to stir things up.

**Aclone** · 09-23-2011, 03:00 PM

Hilarious--I can't belive some of the Hawkeye-centric comments in this thread! Do you realize how much your life revolves around Iowa?

Me, I'm just happy to get the best possible players from wherever they come from. Danny Mac tried to win ******* contests with Iowa on instate recruits, and just ended up loading up his scholarship slots with kids who never contributed on the field.

Welcome to Charles. If that 4.15 shuttle time is anywhere near legit, I think that Bobby Elliott will help you become a great player in Cardinal and Gold!

**BigLame** · 09-23-2011, 03:03 PM

Originally Posted by Aclone

Hilarious--I can't belive some of the Hawkeye-centric comments in this thread! Do you realize how much your life revolves around Iowa?

Me, I'm just happy to get the best possible players from wherever they come from. Danny Mac tried to win ******* contests with Iowa on instate recruits, and just ended up loading up his scholarship slots with kids who never contributed on the field.

Welcome to Charles. If that 4.15 shuttle time is anywhere near legit, I think that Bobby Elliott will help you become a great player in Cardinal and Gold!

My apologies for the Hawk-centric comments. Far be it to happen when we land an in-state recruit from Iowa City who happened to at least come across Iowa's recruiting radar.
I will change the pace then. Do you think Rogers could develop into a defensive tackle?

**benjay** · 09-23-2011, 03:05 PM

Originally Posted by Aclone

Hilarious--I can't belive some of the Hawkeye-centric comments in this thread! Do you realize how much your life revolves around Iowa?

Least I didn't upload an avatar of the Iowa/ISU game, slick.

**ribsnwhiskey** · 09-23-2011, 03:08 PM

Originally Posted by Aclone

Hilarious--I can't belive some of the Hawkeye-centric comments in this thread! Do you realize how much your life revolves around Iowa?

Me, I'm just happy to get the best possible players from wherever they come from. Danny Mac tried to win ******* contests with Iowa on instate recruits, and just ended up loading up his scholarship slots with kids who never contributed on the field.

Welcome to Charles. If that 4.15 shuttle time is anywhere near legit, I think that Bobby Elliott will help you become a great player in Cardinal and Gold!

Kind of ironic considering your avatar and signature.

**Aclone** · 09-23-2011, 03:09 PM

Originally Posted by benjay

Least I didn't upload an avatar of the Iowa/ISU game, slick.

Picture of David Irving. Just happened to be in the Hawk game, cause it was the first one I found. Anyone got a better one? I'll happily put one up of him sacking Chase McCoy.

Originally Posted by ribsnwhiskey

Kind of ironic considering your avatar and signature.

Better? I try to remember to change either one every couple of years.